Message from @Blebleh
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because they bury the revolution
Good luck trying.
This all relies on people not behaving like people.
I can't be convinced.
there are ideological apparatuses of the state
No apparatus is perfect.
like the media, excessive hours of labour, education on economics (mainstream economics) working against us
this is erased in a socialist society
Even if it's effective initially, it will erode over time
unjustified hierarchies are unjust, no matter how much they claim to represent justice
Nothing is completely erased.
when the conditions are there
we wouldn't need a vanguard if all people had been educated on marxist science and economics
It's incredibly doubtful
you don't need a vanguard
super elitist to think working class people cant grasp the ideas without a helping hand
That's assuming that nobody would question it or even outright reject it
It doesn't take into account straight up contrarians
by vanguard I don't mean an elite party isolated
they did
but the assemblies should be *it*
unions, laborers, the people themselves
but then they were picky, Stalin tried to introduce reforms so the delegates could be elected from the assemblies and not from the party
but too late and Khruschevite revisionism entered
and there's the unjust power structure
yes
so we have to remove it as soon as possible after the education and horizontal structures are set up
people don't just give up power voluntarily
once a power structure is in place, the power has to be taken back
so then you just revolution again
against the people supposedly defending you as an extension of your interests
when ultimately the goal is abolishing unjust power structures, categorically
There are two trends in anarchism: synthetism, which has all the individual trends of anarchism from the perspective of the person; and platformism, which uses discipline, collective responsability and has theoretical unity
i spat with zielgarat about vanguardism too haha
in the second case, the people has to give authority to a committee, the same with a leninist party
I don't think we need a revolution again, we should make a plan so the people can dismantle the state legally and let them having guns
but then you're relying on reformism to take down power structures
why bother?
why not just let the workers *be* the movement