Message from @Firefly
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Matter exist without abstractions.
>ideology based on matter
>ideology
>based
>on
>matter
That's pretty based yo.
yes
Matter exists is a positive statement. You need to support this claim.
**Brain fucking explodes*
Which you can, but not without abstraction.
@Deleted User Statements are also not important.
Or their defense. They are just an abstraction
I think statements are important because without a system of language no thought is possible.
@Deleted User thought is not important for matter.
It is how it is without or with thought.
Oh, it's a spook. I get you now.
Everything not matter (whatever that means) is a spook. Gotcha.
@Deleted User abstractions not based on matter are spooks.
You don't even know what matter is without abstraction.
You pretend that you were born with the knowledge.
You don't know. But that does not matter.
The matter is irrational.
Is it? How do you know?
When you make predictions out of logic most of the time you are wrong.
We can rationalize matter.
To some degree.
Using abstractions.
And it is helpful for human brain. But the matter itself does not require your rationality.
Most human are irrational too and animals are.
They don't follow logic.
Logic is a spook.
it is very necessary if you work with abstractions.
But it is very limited at the same time.
You arrive at all these conclusions via magic?
Logic has limitations. They are great. they are spooky.
You don't see billions of people doing logical for them but limited things?
Every day
It depends. Are they using logic correctly, and are the premises sound?