@ᵈˢʳ✪ But none so severe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_and_famines_in_Russia_and_the_Soviet_Union#Pre-1900_droughts_and_famines Russia has always had this problem, though

@ᵈˢʳ✪ True, but it only became worse under communism.

The soviet tried to solve it, but while undergoing a rapid industrialisation process

Of course they would have worsened

@ᵈˢʳ✪ And look at how it turned out.

Look at the Great Leap Forward in the PRC

@ᵈˢʳ✪ >Of course they would have worsened

are you sure it worsened?

After a civil war and a push for industrialization which led them to become one of the most powerful countries

@Zircuits Not really, they were inferior in everyway to the west, their only advantage was numbers and territory.

I think ww2 had a greater effect, though @Deleted User

I think we’re forgetting who did most of the fighting

Germany.

Kek

also the space race and the nuclear arms race

@ᵈˢʳ✪ That wasn't a joke.

@Zircuits We are talking about the 1920s.

Oh

Nuclear weapons were not even theorized yet.

industrialization played a huge role in their expansion into other fields

@Zircuits That it did.

And they did it so recklessly that millions starved, and went into poverty.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/heroesvillains/g4/cs1/

Also Russia lost WW1 remember

@ᵈˢʳ✪ Mhm.

But the thing is that starvation only increased as more communist policies were enacted.

In my opinion, I think Russia moved to collectivisation too early

Lenin abandoned collectivization and allowed for capitalism.

Or maybe it was because the kulaks literally burnt their harvest so the soviets couldn't collectavize it.

BWAHAHAHA

After all, it was predicted that revolution would occur in the most advanced of countries

That it didn’t

@maostravelagent We ain't talking about the holodomor, piss off.

Oh

@ᵈˢʳ✪ And that it didn't.

?

Revolution never occured in the advanced cities.

*Or nations

There were no famines under Lenin though, there was a red terror(which was 3 times smaller than the white terror), but no famine.

The common order goes as follows; Feudalism>Capitalism>Socialism>Communism