Message from @Borzo
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Somewhat
Usually black people are poor because of their historical material conditions
Not to say that there aren't white people who are just as poor
But many leftists see it as black people were kept as slaves through the justifications of racism
"They're black, so they aren't as human as you"
"Therefore it's ok to own them as slaves"
Which was quite a classfuckery
Because under capitalism, slavery is supposed t be abolished and the class relations be proletarian vs bourgeoisie
You niggas still circle jerking?
However, these capitalists found slaves for sale in Africa, since they were still in the early stage of slave societies
And they bought these slaves for profit there
It is simply undialectical
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owning slaves is le ancap
I'll put it as how comrade stalin explains it
"The slave system would be senseless, stupid and unnatural under modern conditions. But under the conditions of a disintegrating primitive communal system, the slave system is a quite understandable and natural phenomenon, since it represents an advance on the primitive communal system"
- Stalin, Dialectical and Historical Materialism
Take Ancient Greece and Rome
And Egypt
They were all slave societies, advances on primitivism
After a lot of time passed, feudalism emerged
Slavery was replaced by serfdom
And after a lot of time passed, capitalism emerged
Serfdom was replaced by wage slavery
And after a lot of time, socialism emerged
Wage slavery was abolished, and workers owned the value of their labour
socialism > gommunism
@Borzo that doesn't work. If I buy a bunch of heavy equipment then people I hire can't just get all the profit from the equipment I bought... They get a fair wage
Now if they themselves owned the equipment they have that right to more of the profit
Ie a small business owner
Like a small family owned mom and pop store
But since most businesses aren't like that they are entitled to a fair wage
It's refreshing to hear good sense
if you do none of the work you get none of the gain, I don't give a damn about your "property rights"
the boss needs you, you don't need him
labor is entitled to all it creates
just ask the wobblies