Message from @F0X~{A Walker}

Discord ID: 588563346190761985


2019-06-13 01:19:37 UTC  

I'll put it as how comrade stalin explains it

2019-06-13 01:19:54 UTC  

"The slave system would be senseless, stupid and unnatural under modern conditions. But under the conditions of a disintegrating primitive communal system, the slave system is a quite understandable and natural phenomenon, since it represents an advance on the primitive communal system"

2019-06-13 01:20:06 UTC  

- Stalin, Dialectical and Historical Materialism

2019-06-13 01:21:37 UTC  

Take Ancient Greece and Rome

2019-06-13 01:21:39 UTC  

And Egypt

2019-06-13 01:21:56 UTC  

They were all slave societies, advances on primitivism

2019-06-13 01:22:01 UTC  

Huge slaving empires

2019-06-13 01:22:15 UTC  

After a lot of time passed, feudalism emerged

2019-06-13 01:22:23 UTC  

Slavery was replaced by serfdom

2019-06-13 01:22:31 UTC  

And after a lot of time passed, capitalism emerged

2019-06-13 01:22:39 UTC  

Serfdom was replaced by wage slavery

2019-06-13 01:22:57 UTC  

And after a lot of time, socialism emerged

2019-06-13 01:23:15 UTC  

Wage slavery was abolished, and workers owned the value of their labour

2019-06-13 01:23:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/588538965171240980/image0.jpg

2019-06-13 01:39:35 UTC  

socialism > gommunism

2019-06-13 02:58:11 UTC  

@Borzo that doesn't work. If I buy a bunch of heavy equipment then people I hire can't just get all the profit from the equipment I bought... They get a fair wage

2019-06-13 02:59:27 UTC  

Now if they themselves owned the equipment they have that right to more of the profit

2019-06-13 02:59:39 UTC  

Ie a small business owner

2019-06-13 02:59:51 UTC  

Like a small family owned mom and pop store

2019-06-13 03:00:25 UTC  

But since most businesses aren't like that they are entitled to a fair wage

2019-06-13 03:00:36 UTC  
2019-06-13 03:08:27 UTC  

It's refreshing to hear good sense

2019-06-13 03:12:23 UTC  

if you do none of the work you get none of the gain, I don't give a damn about your "property rights"

2019-06-13 03:12:46 UTC  

the boss needs you, you don't need him
labor is entitled to all it creates

2019-06-13 03:22:03 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/588568742141886474/IWW.jpg

2019-06-13 03:22:14 UTC  

just ask the wobblies

2019-06-13 03:25:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/588569569967341568/unknown.png

2019-06-13 03:25:32 UTC  

here is a picture i made of the reality of my country

2019-06-13 03:29:09 UTC  

and they all push for the same damn things, just at different times

2019-06-13 03:32:49 UTC  

you get almost all your news from here if you live in america and use american outlets

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/588571453704765450/Media-concentration-cl-1024x631_for_Media_Monopolies.png

2019-06-13 03:32:57 UTC  

five companies

2019-06-13 03:35:47 UTC  

you're looking at the bias on too small of a scale, they're all biased towards american imperialism and corporate interests

2019-06-13 03:38:34 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/588572901377179667/Screenshot_20190612-233818_YouTube.jpg

2019-06-13 03:40:49 UTC  

this particular image is fox news but I could find the same shit from CNN or wapo

2019-06-13 03:44:29 UTC  

1984 had it all wrong, we don't just have a Department of Truth
we have a Department of Truth and a Truth Department and they both hate each other

2019-06-13 04:02:27 UTC  

@Apple O'Day All wealth is generated by labour

2019-06-13 04:03:12 UTC  

All property relations in the past have continually been subject to historical change consequent upon the change in historical conditions.

2019-06-13 04:03:24 UTC  

The French Revolution, for example, abolished feudal property in favour of bourgeois property.

2019-06-13 04:03:36 UTC  

The distinguishing feature of Communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property. But modern bourgeois private property is the final and most complete expression of the system of producing and appropriating products, that is based on class antagonisms, on the exploitation of the many by the few.

2019-06-13 04:03:51 UTC  

We Communists have been reproached with the desire of abolishing the right of personally acquiring property as the fruit of a man’s own labour, which property is alleged to be the groundwork of all personal freedom, activity and independence.

2019-06-13 04:04:04 UTC  

Hard-won, self-acquired, self-earned property! Do you mean the property of petty artisan and of the small peasant, a form of property that preceded the bourgeois form? There is no need to abolish that; the development of industry has to a great extent already destroyed it, and is still destroying it daily.