Wait: when will what decay or corrupt ??

Hierarchies will create violence

and decay happens because of corruption

this isn't how the world works man

`02:07] Ned Kelly: If they elect a fascist, what do you think will happen? ` NO !
To elect does not mean to govern !!

Why do you have a hard time to think outside the dominator matrix ??

`02:07] Ned Kelly: Hierarchy just creates the state ` -> wrong.

Hierarchy is a concept, the concept does not do anything.

The current corporate-state is a result of carelessness of the people. And of their **will** to initiate violence against their neighbours.

`02:08] Ned Kelly: Hierarchies will create violence ` --> no thats wrong.

Violent individuals create violence. Not hierarchy.

>hierarchy is a concept

no shit

`[02:08] Ned Kelly: and decay happens because of corruption ` --> corruption happens only ** inside a society-of-violence** !!

everything is a concept

Hierarchies are what encourage violence

again: hierarchy does not inherently mean: violence !

sorry pacifism can't work in your society, since people will always be trying to climb up the hierarchy you create through any means that they can find, violence being one of them

hierarchy can be build in a voluntary manner.

No it can't

I am not a pacifist. I do not talk of pacifism.

A society without violence is a society without a hierarchy and a state

Violent individuals are encouraged by a hierarchy to commit violence

`since people will always be trying to climb up the hierarchy ` --> wrong. Without violence, there is no hierarchy. correct ?

what

How do you stop violence

If someone violates me, I defend against him. simple

in your ideal world*

that's not simple

what if people lie

what if people get away with it because they are on top of the hierarchy that was created

`02:14] Ned Kelly: Violent individuals are encouraged by a hierarchy to commit violence ` --> if that were so, it were an argument against hierarchy. correct ?

it is an argument against them tho

look at medieval europe

I know its not simple, society has ridden itself deep into the shithole.
I do not tackle lying now. Be patient, prioritize.
First I tackle **violence**

there is no **get away** ! that's only happening under corporate-state psychopaths

medieval was already conquered - it was under violence !

ok you seem to have a medium intellect at all !

wtf are you talking about

Violence will forever exist

you can't get rid of it

Until literally everything is dead

Ok, you cannot get rid of it *at all* . But you can de-institutionalize it.

If we make a consens that we defend against violence, that's the start !