Message from @Prometheus
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@Rex Monte wanna talk about *god* in here
@Ned Kelly What about?
That god is literally an eternal being that none of the abrahamic religions can fully grasp on
cringe
@Ned Kelly Nobody can fully grasp god, he is beyond our comprehension,
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what happened yesterday?
mass shooting, so discord will be extra sensitive to edgy shit
well that fuckin sucks
Maybe in the US
Here, in Europe, we don't have such problems
yea in europe there are more problems with child rape
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@Ned Kelly To your overlord question. Unfortunately no, but why is it that people seem to be unware of these overlords in the first place?Whether they are in a form of super state or powerful big business and it's usually both. Or some hidden secret societies or powerful secret wealthy families or groups, like some mafias , if someone still believes in such things.
We all seem pretty powerless them to confront them and oppose them. Take perpetual war for instance, been going on for pretty long overwhelmingly against the public interest for many years and has calmed down a little only recently.
What was the overlord question again lol
On the top. Where you said about the manipulators. Which make us fight each other.
Ah
Them
It feels to easy to confront, for example in this song. Which represented a time we knew quite familiarly. Though seems impossible in reality. Especially today when people are so divided.
Amen to that song
Its about happiness of them
This one is on the media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nW-IPrzM1g
If they can trick the masses to live like they do with their puppets and receivers
Disturbed is rather anarchist like but I can’t tell if its for us or for money
Big Brother has won its war on us
Only a matter of time before something like newspeak arises once more
I think both in a way. You can't survive without money anyway. But I do believe they are pretty serious to the cause.
Scary when you talk about newspeak. To literally misshape our language.
Do you feel an inkling to which group or party may be more inclined to censorship or thought police. Do give your thoughts, if you like.
Anyone can use it more than others to which they please, all of the modern political parties have similar and nearly identical goals to which they mask behind pity conflict and eternal strife
They want people to hate each other
Who ever they might be, they aren’t just one group of people
For everything changes rapidly
True very true.
But do you think, as if it has an intentional goal. There is an idea that all the parties are in this together. While they pretend to oppose each other. Their sponsors are mostly the same businesses which they pretend to oppose. Like many who said Hilary had the support of wall street and same can said for Trump.
Now if Bernie is true, or any libertarian candidate who may think they might remain unaffected by the war and propaganda machine. Can it even be true. It's like. no one could really be an outsider. I feel like there has to be some kind of filter or mechanism which keeps them in line.
Trump is very predictable and seems like the choice which the people in top knew would have a particular predictable reaction. It's almost as if they prepared these leaders before hand for the masses.
IF anyone still remembers Gore Vidal. They would know that he reminded the public, that they dupe most of us, by selecting celebrity politicians. After all they ill-informed, while most of them will think, they voted for them, and due to strong sense of favorability they are selected, yet the real decisions would be made by big corporations behind the seems like general motors he said, at the time.
I'll try to find the video.
Here a useful link. You'd certainly like.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4508069/gore-vidal-power-elite-education
Trump and Hilary silently have the same "funders" of sorts that only care about their next million-billion dollar paycheck they can acquire from their two specific puppets mandated together to fight for a cause that are, if you look close enough, are just the same neoliberalized ideology that was created in order to keep the economy in an always chaotic and messy state....
Bernie and the other libertarian candidates are still puppets to the machine they claim to be against, especially Bernie sanders, who is still only in it for a money, however his goals can be slightly varied as he is a social democrat, an economic system that tries to get rid of the bad things in capitalism but fails to each time mainly due to corruption or their lack of coordination in their planning (Brazil and Mexico being a good examples of failures while Denmark and Norway being examples of it working). But in the end they fail to get rid of any of the hierarchical structures that have long sense been plaguing this accursed Earth since man's existence. But now that people are not relying on it so much, it is likely there will be some wanting of reformation and change in the society.
Trump is just a failed plan that has made more fascists than anything, but not as much as Hilary probably would've due to her madness and corruption being on another scale
Schools are what keep the poor poor and the rich rich, they are designed flawed to create the perfect citizen of X country and at any wish of their own entire generations worth of knowledge can be rewritten or changed if it didn't suit the times. 1984 is in one of the "required/recommended" reading books for most people since it reminds us of the way it is becoming or how bad it could be.
Very informative. I do see what you are pointing out. But is it really as horrible as it was in 1984? What Winston Smith went through and saw.
I mean in terms of cruelty. In terms of propaganda, I have no doubt. In fact people like Trump other of his cronies or any other politicians, feel very good examples of double think. I feel they apply so well, that's how they lie so well, while making themselves look really honest about it.
I have read the novel fairly recently so my memory is still fresh in some places. Though I have heard our times, seems more similar to Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Though I haven't read it yet. But Have listened to his audio ultimate revolution.
If it makes you feel better, the appendix describing new speak is written in past tense :)))
I mean there was a point where Winston literally confessed to wanting to rape and then murder Julia because he thought she was a Thought police