```What exactly is Capitalism then? Capitalism focuses on the needs on higher ups and will until the end of its existence. Creating societies purely run by capitalists is a horrible idea on the social and economic levels, corporations only value profit and not human lives. You wanna create a billion Caesars? Give a bunch of rich assholes power over everything and except them to control their hounds.```

What a typical Marxist answer if you think it was all exploitation why do even think for a minute people came from the rural areas and various other places. Just to enslave themselves. Come on seriously, why so many want to enslave themselves.

```Order is a huge lie, order is death and the rape of humanity as a whole. Look at any authoritarian society and tell me that order is a good idea.```

When is order a lie, you have order here do you not, is this discord purely unregulated. Give me a break.

```How the hell can I trust the greedy to "be well for the economy" when they will literally control fucking everything they can for power, only limited by a false NAP that will in the end, mean nothing to the individuals prosperity unless you are rich. Suicides will become company regulation and everything will slowly assure itself out of existence like normal. "Other Extremists" will react to this rise and raise a jihad for another 1000 years in a state of perpetual war.```

It's not always greedy and poor you know. Ever thought of production and the work. If some produces more how the hell is he greedy. Also the shareholders, willing consumers and not to mention your compliance in the benefits yet never the loss or the cost. how do you explain that.


```Human nature is convoluted at best and at worst non existent, no two situations in mankind are the same for what ever they value.```

If it's convoluted how would you explain your perfect Communist system, in which Marx proposed all existing social conditions be eradicated, as a very bold claim. Without any road map, on what you may do, and certainly no end either. As you never made it up anyway.

I see

```What a typical Marxist answer if you think it was all exploitation why do even think for a minute people came from the rural areas and various other places. Just to enslave themselves. Come on seriously, why so many want to enslave themselves.```

They don't want to enslave themselves, they want to get profit and get rich like the man in the white collar. Its been an unhealthy situation since the push in the early 1800s and now we arrive where we are now with this madness brewing. Capitalism, if its what you say it is, will never come to be unless someone is willing to give up all their political control, which nobody is, and then somehow convince the world that pure capitalism will work this way and not lead to generations of wanna be millionaires driving society to purely greedy and careless bastards. Human lives will become more and more worthless unless you have money, money that many won't be able to get without luck. You remember in 1984 where Winston described how the Proles were utter degenerates and cared for nothing outside of their tiny bubble? Yeah that times across a massive society after a couple generations. The few control all and no "libertarian" with their Punisher skull or anonymous mask can fix that.

```When is order a lie, you have order here do you not, is this discord purely unregulated. Give me a break.```
Order is a lie because Order implies society gives a shit enough to create it, which to a degree Capitalism has attempted to create this.

You have a point in this one, but society inwardly craves for it. Just see pure anarchy, without even a slight ideological structure and you'll shudder.

I get the isolation point you have in the enslavement part. But it's exactly the inversely the same in the case of collectivism

The tyranny of the Majority

heard of it

Why we had constitutions in the first place.

Give everyone control, and no one has it.

Only the ideologue

the demagogue

```It's not always greedy and poor you know. Ever thought of production and the work. If some produces more how the hell is he greedy. Also the shareholders, willing consumers and not to mention your compliance in the benefits yet never the loss or the cost. how do you explain that.```

A willing consumer only cares for the product and not the products manufacturing or untold suffering. We both seem to be speaking from a middle class perspective that we to a limited degree think the class here is fading in the USA. The poor deserve more say and control then they are granted by the ivory tower worshippers and the man beyond.

```If it's convoluted how would you explain your perfect Communist system, in which Marx proposed all existing social conditions be eradicated, as a very bold claim. Without any road map, on what you may do, and certainly no end either. As you never made it up anyway.```

I don't believe in perfection because humans aren't ever to achieve it. The Overman proves this and humanity can't even achieve it. Marx wanted their lands and worshippers wiped out, not the fact they existed, he was after all an historian. There is a road map, its the matter of getting there that Leftists agree to commit to in the end, they all agree where they must go but never how to get there

Big Brother and the party

How they amass that power you ignore

The party is too be destroyed as well

Oh well, I guess will stop arguing, I do like what you propose, but just want the results in the right way. Not end up in a new form of tyranny.
Right now my concern is with tech and how much control it has on our lives. The capitalist as you might coin him has more control than he could ever dream before. How to stop this giant monster, I have no clue and it's keeps getting bigger and bigger.

heehheheehheeh

good

the primmie path is one of insanity

but its the best one for you lmfao

Unabomber time

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm

@Prometheus

Will give it a read, thanks

I wish I was better with Prim Theory but im more focused on the praxis of it

@Cúchulainn slave

post your shit

he has more pdfs than I do

Europa über alles

I've my share of .pdfs because I used to have a kink for collecting them, but I'm exhausted lads spare me

Shut the fuck up faggot @hans the homofascist

https://youtu.be/8EujVCe_vYg

nice

@Cúchulainn shut up subhuman

@hans the homofascist ok cope

says the human parasite

Copelets

A question for all people who want to answer.

Can War be avoided? Don't todays wars feel different from the past. We are sent to Wars and somehow conscripted to it without being fully consciously aware in what we are taking part in.

We are pulled into stuff, without knowing what interests are of the people who pushed us in it. It can be the same for both sides who are waging war even.

If somehow we knew what it was all about would we be able to stop these major wars between countries?
Or I mean silent wars of today. Unlike a full fledged announced wars of the past.

Sob no one cares. I guess it was too much a packaged question and a hypothetical one too.