Message from @Blueroad

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2019-05-30 16:46:27 UTC  

Right. But anyway, any thoughts regarding censorship of certain symbols (exm. Swastika)? For me personally, there is no reason to censor anything. That only makes people weak and easily to be controlled.

2019-05-30 16:48:34 UTC  

I wish I could get a DNA test but the terms of service for those DNA testing companies say that by doing that I'd be giving them ownership of my DNA and I don't want to give up ownership of my DNA.

2019-05-30 16:48:41 UTC  

censorship isnt bad

2019-05-30 16:48:46 UTC  

I wish I could get a DNA test but the terms of service for those DNA testing companies say that by doing that I'd be giving them ownership of my DNA and I don't want to give up ownership of my DNA.

2019-05-30 16:48:56 UTC  

I wish I could get a DNA test but the terms of service for all those DNA testing companies say that by doing that I'd be giving them ownership of my DNA and I don't want to give up ownership of my DNA, that's creepy.

2019-05-30 16:49:54 UTC  

It is actually. How can we get equality if we don't let people to express their opinion regarding some issues?

2019-05-30 16:50:23 UTC  

equality isnt good idk why youd strive for it

2019-05-30 16:51:17 UTC  

I am not striving for absolute equality, however, Capitalism has turned people weak because of automation.

2019-05-30 16:51:46 UTC  

i dont even disagree im just not sure how youd conclude that equality is a good thing from that

2019-05-30 16:51:47 UTC  

We produce more than we need, which lead Marx to a point of "redistributing the wealth"

2019-05-30 16:52:21 UTC  

@Blueroad You should read Marx's work regarding Capitalism and Das Kapital

2019-05-30 16:52:38 UTC  

i know ltv lol

2019-05-30 16:52:58 UTC  

i dont see how ltv makes any case for equality

2019-05-30 16:53:20 UTC  

its just an account for phenomenon in capitalism

2019-05-30 16:55:35 UTC  

The thing is that the meme "absolute equality" came from a Marx's vision of a society where wealth is distributed amongst population. He actually thought of this as both good and bad idea, since people, even when they would get the goods, would become more weak than they are right now.

2019-05-30 16:56:32 UTC  

However, Capitalism would inevitably lead to that, since now more and more people are working "bullshit" jobs.

2019-05-30 16:56:33 UTC  

i never said anything about absolute equality im just trying to understand why equality is desirable

2019-05-30 16:58:44 UTC  

communist scum!

2019-05-30 16:58:44 UTC  

Equality matters at this very point because the Bourgeoisie (the rich class who doesn't work shit) is earning more than most workers. Bourgeoisie isn't necessarily "all rich people" since proletarian can be rich and poor. If communism is based on human nature as many marxist put it, why do we need a government to tell us what to do?

2019-05-30 16:58:45 UTC  

Semper Fi

2019-05-30 16:59:20 UTC  

you just said equality is good because society is unequal

2019-05-30 16:59:45 UTC  

There is healthy and unhealthy inequality though

2019-05-30 17:00:19 UTC  

thats not answering the question

2019-05-30 17:00:33 UTC  

It does, let me explain.

2019-05-30 17:00:33 UTC  

the question was why is equality desirable

2019-05-30 17:01:17 UTC  

Because Bourgeois is exploiting you, and they do not work for their earned money. They just own you, like a slave, except they can fire you and leave you with no job.

2019-05-30 17:01:38 UTC  

The only inequality that must exists is within the workers ability and need.

2019-05-30 17:02:12 UTC  

yeah thats just begging the question, dude

2019-05-30 17:02:13 UTC  

If the worker is fired it may very well be due to the competence of the worker not being fitting to the job

2019-05-30 17:02:49 UTC  

your saying equality is good because its good, you use a negative example(inequality)but thats really what it says

2019-05-30 17:04:01 UTC  

But I never said that absolute equality is good, I an saying here that unjustified inequality must be abolished, since Capitalism is very toxic and adaptable. Here, let me give you a question

2019-05-30 17:04:12 UTC  

Why do you think music today is bad?

2019-05-30 17:04:15 UTC  

i never mentioned absolute equality

2019-05-30 17:04:26 UTC  

i think music today is good

2019-05-30 17:04:54 UTC  

Its not, when something is mass produced, it is inevitable to lose quality. Just like with money.

2019-05-30 17:05:07 UTC  

thats your opinion

2019-05-30 17:05:48 UTC  

Its not really, it does hold a truth, unless you are degenerate who listens to trap everyday.

2019-05-30 17:06:02 UTC  

Do tell me why people think classical music is better than most modern shit?

2019-05-30 17:06:25 UTC  

Its simple, that music was created under no economic influence.

2019-05-30 17:07:01 UTC  

Capitalism creates Alienation from their Labour, the other workers etc

2019-05-30 17:07:31 UTC  

i dont care what other people think. i think things are only valuable in light of some subjectively held criteria so this means nothing to me