For the benefit of everone else

Not just yourself

what if I decide that I gain more value from disassociating with the group rather than staying in the group?

will I be allowed to do so

Likely not because by the end of it, you are working just for yourself

But it really depends whether you will be well off

Evening fellas

why cannot I work for myself, if I own myself as you said?

sure, that's what I meant by saying if I gain more value from disassociating with the group rather than staying in it

You can work for youself as long as you contribute to the group's interests

So everyone benefits

is there anything specific your referring to when you state that I should work for the "group's interests"?

like, a worker council, or what?

It depends on what youre good at

@Hawei good evening

To be more efficient you must figure out what you youself are good at

And do the best in it

You will be rewarded based on your merit

sure, I will agree with you on that

what I'm questioning is why better people should rule over lesser people

Because some people are just better at doing things than others

Or work harder than others

Example: A dumb Lazy person doesnt deserve to rule over a Smart Hardworking person

alright I understand that, they can guide people who are less capable or in need of help, but I don't see the justification for "ruling" over them, you can help others without ruling others or getting ruled over

also, having rulers and ruled creates classes

The reason why we need to rule over them is because not everyone knows whats good for them

Often time it leads to them indulging in sin

If they deviate

but why specifically, rule? can't we not guide them voluntarily, in order for both parties to learn more from each other and gain value? if a person wants to remain unskilled or low, and they refuse help, they should be left alone, because they will reap the consequences of their own decisions

also, what do you mean by sin?

1. Society wont be very efficient if everyone doesnt do thier part

2. Drugs, Porn, Pedophillia, and other form of degeneracy

If there are no rules on this there will be chaos

If rules are not enforced there will be total darkness

Fascists dont want to opress people for the fun of it

We want to make a better world through order

1. obviously society won't be very efficient if everyone dosent do their part, but the key to making society even better is to make the individual realise that he has more to earn from contributing to society than being lazy.. they will not reap the rewards society gives them otherwise, making them learn is the best way. if you use force to make them work unwillingly, society becomes less productive as a whole, because when people are forced against their will alienation and exploration will occur simultaneously

2. I think people should be allowed to do drugs and see whatever porn they like, except for cp ofc. if they own themselves, they should be allowed to engage in said acts.

3. how do we know the order you will dictate will not result in the majority being oppressed, the minority having absolute power and not creating a form of class struggle between rulers and ruled? I don't know whether you believe in absolute fascist dictatorship, or your for something like the grand council of fascism.

Ok Let me answer

additionally, what do you consider to be degeneracy?

I will answer that later as the 4th question

ok