Message from @Hawei
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So Anarchism wants the Collapse of the state right?
collapse of the state as in abolishing the state, yes
Ok
https://www.citypopulation.de/php/lithuania-admin.php?adm1id=04 aaaa this makes me so happy my town is looking good
Fascists want a strong state that benefits the people by having the best people rule over the lesser ones
i understand
All people of different proffesions will do good at the level where they are good at
but why should other people rule over others? who defines who is "better" and who is "less"?
why cannot I own myself?
It depends on the individual
You do own yourself but you must use yourself for the interests of the group
If you are good you go higher, if you do pooely you go lower
if I own myself can I disassociate from the group? also, why should I work for the interests of the group?
For the benefit of everone else
Not just yourself
what if I decide that I gain more value from disassociating with the group rather than staying in the group?
will I be allowed to do so
Likely not because by the end of it, you are working just for yourself
But it really depends whether you will be well off
why cannot I work for myself, if I own myself as you said?
sure, that's what I meant by saying if I gain more value from disassociating with the group rather than staying in it
You can work for youself as long as you contribute to the group's interests
So everyone benefits
is there anything specific your referring to when you state that I should work for the "group's interests"?
like, a worker council, or what?
It depends on what youre good at
To be more efficient you must figure out what you youself are good at
And do the best in it
You will be rewarded based on your merit
sure, I will agree with you on that
what I'm questioning is why better people should rule over lesser people
Because some people are just better at doing things than others
Or work harder than others
Example: A dumb Lazy person doesnt deserve to rule over a Smart Hardworking person
alright I understand that, they can guide people who are less capable or in need of help, but I don't see the justification for "ruling" over them, you can help others without ruling others or getting ruled over
also, having rulers and ruled creates classes
The reason why we need to rule over them is because not everyone knows whats good for them
Often time it leads to them indulging in sin