Message from @Hawei

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2019-06-05 12:53:07 UTC  

So Anarchism wants the Collapse of the state right?

2019-06-05 12:55:21 UTC  

collapse of the state as in abolishing the state, yes

2019-06-05 12:55:54 UTC  
2019-06-05 12:57:05 UTC  

Ok

2019-06-05 12:57:42 UTC  

https://www.citypopulation.de/php/lithuania-admin.php?adm1id=04 aaaa this makes me so happy my town is looking good

2019-06-05 12:57:57 UTC  

Fascists want a strong state that benefits the people by having the best people rule over the lesser ones

2019-06-05 12:58:10 UTC  

i understand

2019-06-05 12:58:36 UTC  

All people of different proffesions will do good at the level where they are good at

2019-06-05 12:58:39 UTC  

but why should other people rule over others? who defines who is "better" and who is "less"?

2019-06-05 12:58:47 UTC  

why cannot I own myself?

2019-06-05 12:58:52 UTC  

It depends on the individual

2019-06-05 12:59:35 UTC  

You do own yourself but you must use yourself for the interests of the group

2019-06-05 13:00:02 UTC  

If you are good you go higher, if you do pooely you go lower

2019-06-05 13:00:02 UTC  

if I own myself can I disassociate from the group? also, why should I work for the interests of the group?

2019-06-05 13:00:20 UTC  

For the benefit of everone else

2019-06-05 13:00:30 UTC  

Not just yourself

2019-06-05 13:01:23 UTC  

what if I decide that I gain more value from disassociating with the group rather than staying in the group?

2019-06-05 13:01:37 UTC  

will I be allowed to do so

2019-06-05 13:02:10 UTC  

Likely not because by the end of it, you are working just for yourself

2019-06-05 13:02:30 UTC  

But it really depends whether you will be well off

2019-06-05 13:02:34 UTC  

Evening fellas

2019-06-05 13:02:35 UTC  

why cannot I work for myself, if I own myself as you said?

2019-06-05 13:02:54 UTC  

sure, that's what I meant by saying if I gain more value from disassociating with the group rather than staying in it

2019-06-05 13:03:11 UTC  

You can work for youself as long as you contribute to the group's interests

2019-06-05 13:03:31 UTC  

So everyone benefits

2019-06-05 13:03:44 UTC  

is there anything specific your referring to when you state that I should work for the "group's interests"?

2019-06-05 13:03:51 UTC  

like, a worker council, or what?

2019-06-05 13:04:02 UTC  

It depends on what youre good at

2019-06-05 13:04:07 UTC  

@Hawei good evening

2019-06-05 13:04:32 UTC  

To be more efficient you must figure out what you youself are good at

2019-06-05 13:04:41 UTC  

And do the best in it

2019-06-05 13:04:54 UTC  

You will be rewarded based on your merit

2019-06-05 13:04:55 UTC  

sure, I will agree with you on that

2019-06-05 13:05:06 UTC  

what I'm questioning is why better people should rule over lesser people

2019-06-05 13:05:45 UTC  

Because some people are just better at doing things than others

2019-06-05 13:05:55 UTC  

Or work harder than others

2019-06-05 13:06:26 UTC  

Example: A dumb Lazy person doesnt deserve to rule over a Smart Hardworking person

2019-06-05 13:06:32 UTC  

alright I understand that, they can guide people who are less capable or in need of help, but I don't see the justification for "ruling" over them, you can help others without ruling others or getting ruled over

2019-06-05 13:06:53 UTC  

also, having rulers and ruled creates classes

2019-06-05 13:07:18 UTC  

The reason why we need to rule over them is because not everyone knows whats good for them

2019-06-05 13:07:42 UTC  

Often time it leads to them indulging in sin