Message from @Leiro レイロ

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2019-06-05 13:03:11 UTC  

You can work for youself as long as you contribute to the group's interests

2019-06-05 13:03:31 UTC  

So everyone benefits

2019-06-05 13:03:44 UTC  

is there anything specific your referring to when you state that I should work for the "group's interests"?

2019-06-05 13:03:51 UTC  

like, a worker council, or what?

2019-06-05 13:04:02 UTC  

It depends on what youre good at

2019-06-05 13:04:07 UTC  

@Hawei good evening

2019-06-05 13:04:32 UTC  

To be more efficient you must figure out what you youself are good at

2019-06-05 13:04:41 UTC  

And do the best in it

2019-06-05 13:04:54 UTC  

You will be rewarded based on your merit

2019-06-05 13:04:55 UTC  

sure, I will agree with you on that

2019-06-05 13:05:06 UTC  

what I'm questioning is why better people should rule over lesser people

2019-06-05 13:05:45 UTC  

Because some people are just better at doing things than others

2019-06-05 13:05:55 UTC  

Or work harder than others

2019-06-05 13:06:26 UTC  

Example: A dumb Lazy person doesnt deserve to rule over a Smart Hardworking person

2019-06-05 13:06:32 UTC  

alright I understand that, they can guide people who are less capable or in need of help, but I don't see the justification for "ruling" over them, you can help others without ruling others or getting ruled over

2019-06-05 13:06:53 UTC  

also, having rulers and ruled creates classes

2019-06-05 13:07:18 UTC  

The reason why we need to rule over them is because not everyone knows whats good for them

2019-06-05 13:07:42 UTC  

Often time it leads to them indulging in sin

2019-06-05 13:07:52 UTC  

If they deviate

2019-06-05 13:08:35 UTC  

but why specifically, rule? can't we not guide them voluntarily, in order for both parties to learn more from each other and gain value? if a person wants to remain unskilled or low, and they refuse help, they should be left alone, because they will reap the consequences of their own decisions

2019-06-05 13:08:47 UTC  

also, what do you mean by sin?

2019-06-05 13:09:24 UTC  

1. Society wont be very efficient if everyone doesnt do thier part

2019-06-05 13:10:00 UTC  

2. Drugs, Porn, Pedophillia, and other form of degeneracy

2019-06-05 13:10:26 UTC  

If there are no rules on this there will be chaos

2019-06-05 13:10:54 UTC  

If rules are not enforced there will be total darkness

2019-06-05 13:11:52 UTC  

Fascists dont want to opress people for the fun of it

2019-06-05 13:12:09 UTC  

We want to make a better world through order

2019-06-05 13:14:48 UTC  

1. obviously society won't be very efficient if everyone dosent do their part, but the key to making society even better is to make the individual realise that he has more to earn from contributing to society than being lazy.. they will not reap the rewards society gives them otherwise, making them learn is the best way. if you use force to make them work unwillingly, society becomes less productive as a whole, because when people are forced against their will alienation and exploration will occur simultaneously

2. I think people should be allowed to do drugs and see whatever porn they like, except for cp ofc. if they own themselves, they should be allowed to engage in said acts.

3. how do we know the order you will dictate will not result in the majority being oppressed, the minority having absolute power and not creating a form of class struggle between rulers and ruled? I don't know whether you believe in absolute fascist dictatorship, or your for something like the grand council of fascism.

2019-06-05 13:15:53 UTC  

Ok Let me answer

2019-06-05 13:15:56 UTC  

additionally, what do you consider to be degeneracy?

2019-06-05 13:16:15 UTC  

I will answer that later as the 4th question

2019-06-05 13:16:23 UTC  

ok

2019-06-05 13:16:47 UTC  

Im not trying to prove myfself right or wrong

2019-06-05 13:16:53 UTC  

I just want to share ideas

2019-06-05 13:17:05 UTC  

alright

2019-06-05 13:19:38 UTC  

1. Well usually force is necissary if telling them isnt enough. Its basic common sense that you need to contribute to society to earn more for themselves and for others. Most people want to work and be productive so im sure that it wont require much force to persuade people.

2019-06-05 13:21:41 UTC  

2. Drug addiction leads to people becoming less productive and a threat to society due to the psychotic effects. Porn is looked down apon because it caters to your selfish desires and results in making you docile instead of finding a mate.

2019-06-05 13:25:12 UTC  

3. Only the best people will be able to stand for the candidacy of Leader. If the classes are comfortable with thier way of life they will just roll with it. The Leader has to be benevolent and strong in Character. Fascism is based on the acceptance of Nature. And in nature we are not equal but we roll with it.

2019-06-05 13:26:33 UTC  

4. Homosexuality, Sexual depravity, Drug addiction, Pedophillia and other things I find hard to explain

2019-06-05 13:26:42 UTC  

Anyway gtg

2019-06-05 13:26:53 UTC  

Its fun having a discussion with you