Message from @Leiro レイロ

Discord ID: 585814626080391178


2019-06-05 12:29:39 UTC  

Not everyone knows where to lean

2019-06-05 12:29:50 UTC  

Or is well versed on a certain topic

2019-06-05 12:32:42 UTC  

There's really no such thing as centrism

2019-06-05 12:47:15 UTC  

Centrism is fake

2019-06-05 12:47:56 UTC  

Ah hello im back

2019-06-05 12:48:23 UTC  

hi

2019-06-05 12:50:33 UTC  

So Hmm... Centrism

2019-06-05 12:50:45 UTC  

I dont believe in it

2019-06-05 12:50:58 UTC  

I belive in the 3rd Position

2019-06-05 12:51:03 UTC  

Fascism

2019-06-05 12:52:07 UTC  

just as bad as centrism

2019-06-05 12:52:17 UTC  

Tell me why

2019-06-05 12:52:26 UTC  

Lets have a productive conversation

2019-06-05 12:52:43 UTC  

Lets try our best not to have an ideology war

2019-06-05 12:53:07 UTC  

So Anarchism wants the Collapse of the state right?

2019-06-05 12:55:21 UTC  

collapse of the state as in abolishing the state, yes

2019-06-05 12:55:54 UTC  
2019-06-05 12:57:05 UTC  

Ok

2019-06-05 12:57:42 UTC  

https://www.citypopulation.de/php/lithuania-admin.php?adm1id=04 aaaa this makes me so happy my town is looking good

2019-06-05 12:57:57 UTC  

Fascists want a strong state that benefits the people by having the best people rule over the lesser ones

2019-06-05 12:58:10 UTC  

i understand

2019-06-05 12:58:36 UTC  

All people of different proffesions will do good at the level where they are good at

2019-06-05 12:58:39 UTC  

but why should other people rule over others? who defines who is "better" and who is "less"?

2019-06-05 12:58:47 UTC  

why cannot I own myself?

2019-06-05 12:58:52 UTC  

It depends on the individual

2019-06-05 12:59:35 UTC  

You do own yourself but you must use yourself for the interests of the group

2019-06-05 13:00:02 UTC  

If you are good you go higher, if you do pooely you go lower

2019-06-05 13:00:02 UTC  

if I own myself can I disassociate from the group? also, why should I work for the interests of the group?

2019-06-05 13:00:20 UTC  

For the benefit of everone else

2019-06-05 13:00:30 UTC  

Not just yourself

2019-06-05 13:01:23 UTC  

what if I decide that I gain more value from disassociating with the group rather than staying in the group?

2019-06-05 13:01:37 UTC  

will I be allowed to do so

2019-06-05 13:02:10 UTC  

Likely not because by the end of it, you are working just for yourself

2019-06-05 13:02:30 UTC  

But it really depends whether you will be well off

2019-06-05 13:02:34 UTC  

Evening fellas

2019-06-05 13:02:35 UTC  

why cannot I work for myself, if I own myself as you said?

2019-06-05 13:02:54 UTC  

sure, that's what I meant by saying if I gain more value from disassociating with the group rather than staying in it

2019-06-05 13:03:11 UTC  

You can work for youself as long as you contribute to the group's interests

2019-06-05 13:03:31 UTC  

So everyone benefits

2019-06-05 13:03:44 UTC  

is there anything specific your referring to when you state that I should work for the "group's interests"?

2019-06-05 13:03:51 UTC  

like, a worker council, or what?