Message from @Americus
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The Nazis never should have come to power at all
But by the individual commune
Last night was nice
None of it was justified
Even in areas where the means of production are worker owned (like I said, homesteads and farming communities), there is still a government
@Danny Sullivan they elected Hitler
Shutup
You're made they chose him over your dumb commie
No on is saying there shouldn't be @Americus
You confuse state with any form of governing
@Valeska-ἑταίρα night of the long knives
If it isn't stateless then it isn't communist
>hitler elected
He was
Kinda easy to get votes when you literally assassinate all opposition
And when the kaiser hands the reichstag over to you
He didn't kill his opposition
The sudetenland did indeed have a large amount of Germans living in the area, and Germany's annexation of the sudetenland is justifiable, however the full invasion of Czechoslovakia is not. What was once known as West Prussia was also still fairly German at the time, and I think Hitler should have negotiated more with the Polish government before outright invading them.
Stalin did that
Even if the means of production are owned by the proletariat they still institute a state to organize society their way. The state is an inevitable construct of human organization
@Americus The state is the institution of organised violence which is used by the ruling class of a country to maintain the conditions of its rule. Thus, it is only in a society which is divided between hostile social classes that the state exists
@Valeska-ἑταίρα are you actually retarded
@Danny Sullivan the Weimar Republic was a republic, the monarchy was officially abolished in 1919
Please don't same dumb shit like that
Wilhelm II had no power in Germany since the end of World War 1
@Deleted User yeah but if Germany took the Studentenland the borders would look ugly
Didn't hitler lose the election, then get appointed chancellor, then seize control
@Deleted User hitler still had the position of chancellor handed to him
@Monolith that would be cool and all if humans weren’t Inherently tribalistic
@Kyger he didn't lose he just didn't win the seat he wanted
@Danny Sullivan yes, he legally came to power regardless
He ran in the presidential election and lost it
@im in the middle of nowhere bruh tribalism is not classism by any means
Imagine actually getting hard over the Nazi rise to power
Then hindenburg appointed him somewhere else to appease him
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Basically
Primitive communism was classless
What a pussy as way to seize control of a state
Murder workers opposition