Good point yeah, at the moment

We're destroying the earth right now

When automation reaches a certain point we will have post scarcity

What makes you think we will be there in 50 years? Or any time period?

Its a future that is not guaranteed

But a state of affairs that ought to be achieved

How are you planning to eliminate scarcity

Automation obviously

You're gonna reach a point where nature cannot keep up with demand

Like there are limits on how much you can produce

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Nature will be preserved with technology, also we can produce all the pollution related stuff on the Moon or something

Technology would be advanced enough

What’s the topic

I’m assuming post scarcity?

Right now, yes

How are you planning to make the technology advanced enough??

Research, how else?

Alright, what kind of research?

Technology will always advance as long as human society still exists

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Yeah, but not magically

It will be done

Again, how?

We are limited by the laws of nature

hmmm idk how is research usually done

We can wish for something, but it's no guarantee that it will happen

by scientists maybe?

Alright, why didn't they invent what you want yet?

We don’t need to be engineers to argue that post scarcity is possible. Please explain why this production would be impossible

Planned obsolecence and we are not quite there yet

You also may not know that socialists believe in production for use, not exchange. It will be much easier to accomplish when resources aren’t being directed to useless trinkets

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You yourself said society should just have mutual aid

Post-scarcity is impossible because nature does not keep up with humans. The amount of humans increases, but the amount of nature doesn't and at a point you are not gonna have enough nature to create food with to feed all humans

nature isn’t static

More food can be grown and animals reproduce

You are implying we will be limited to Earth for resources to sustain post scarcity.

yeah I am

And once nuclear fusion is possible we can make elements ourselves

you can artificially increase the populations of both, as we’ve learned through our usage of agriculture for thousands of years