Technology will always advance as long as human society still exists

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Yeah, but not magically

It will be done

Again, how?

We are limited by the laws of nature

hmmm idk how is research usually done

We can wish for something, but it's no guarantee that it will happen

by scientists maybe?

Alright, why didn't they invent what you want yet?

We don’t need to be engineers to argue that post scarcity is possible. Please explain why this production would be impossible

Planned obsolecence and we are not quite there yet

You also may not know that socialists believe in production for use, not exchange. It will be much easier to accomplish when resources aren’t being directed to useless trinkets

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You yourself said society should just have mutual aid

Post-scarcity is impossible because nature does not keep up with humans. The amount of humans increases, but the amount of nature doesn't and at a point you are not gonna have enough nature to create food with to feed all humans

nature isn’t static

More food can be grown and animals reproduce

You are implying we will be limited to Earth for resources to sustain post scarcity.

yeah I am

And once nuclear fusion is possible we can make elements ourselves

you can artificially increase the populations of both, as we’ve learned through our usage of agriculture for thousands of years

Alright, how are you planning on increasing both's population?

You can also adopt more efficient ways to farm, vertical farming for one

I’m not a farmer. If you want to learn how they work, read about it

Also increasing the population of livestock may not be necessary once growing meat becomes more viable

Where you could have a factory that produces meat using all of the science and cell stuff, lab grown meat already exists

Yes, but it may not be the most efficient. Isn’t creating lab meat resource intensive?

Eh I dunno

It's extremely resource intensive

Hmm actually

@☭ Anon ☭ It requires the stem cells of the animal you wish to make meat of

https://www.fastcompany.com/3044572/the-325000-lab-grown-hamburger-now-costs-less-than-12

```While the price of the burger has dropped to almost-reasonable prices, Post told ABC that it will still be another 20 to 30 years before it’s commercially viable. Among the hurdles still left to overcome: figuring out how to produce test-tube meat at scale, and coming up with a way to produce it that doesn’t use fetal calf serum (currently, cells are grown in the serum, which is taken from cow fetus blood).```

The main problem now is mass production

Oh if it’s that cheap to produce already then we’re definitely gonna be doing that in the future

We could also just eat plants, more efficient way of getting energy at least according to biology

Sure, but why not eat meat if it can be grown in a lab?

Since if an animal consumes a plant it only gets 10% of the plant's energy, humans consuming the animal get 10% of the animal's energy

it goes something like that, I remember from my biology class

It is grown through stem cells