Message from @Sam Southern - TN

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2018-01-08 05:33:15 UTC  

He has an interesting idea of a convergence of catastrophes - i.e. that changes in climate, economy, and demographics will result the collapse in the current system

2018-01-08 05:34:28 UTC  

Personally I'm not sure, it seems like Macron or Sisi or Modi or Trump figures might instead predominate

2018-01-08 05:34:59 UTC  

more political repression, with token nationalist actions and a largely unchanged economic system

2018-01-08 13:39:52 UTC  

Political repression, out right police states to control destroyed societies. *if it doesnt change. @Nemets

2018-01-08 19:34:57 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396469069332611083/400009502201741313/image.png

2018-01-08 19:35:12 UTC  

Great paragraph from page 39

2018-01-08 19:42:18 UTC  

> a rejection of aesthetics and the will to live

2018-01-08 19:46:23 UTC  

^ right. That’s a point that has been very understated but I think is widely felt by all of us. There’s no assertion of who you are and why you deserve to exist. It’s all taken for granted.

2018-01-08 19:54:46 UTC  

Heart problem.

2018-01-08 23:59:45 UTC  

I think the second chapter is out of place. Most sustainable energy pushes are good for government and big corporations. Conserving the environment is super important but commissioning a new nuclear facility costs billions and sometimes over a decade of planning

2018-01-09 00:00:49 UTC  

But it looks good, and has been marketed for us. It also gives us the impetus to highlight gross government overregulation and media frenzy over safer forms of energy

2018-01-09 01:18:54 UTC  

I think his point is that its better for Europe and bad for (((America))) and her (((ME allies))) long term. Pointing out American dominance is frustrating cause he doesnt name (((them)))

2018-01-09 06:01:26 UTC  

I see

2018-01-09 16:15:20 UTC  

@Deleted User Late to this discussion, but I agree with you. Saying America is responsible for the factors contributing to Europe's decline is like saying Russia is responsible for Bolshevism.

2018-01-09 16:41:51 UTC  

@XI Palaeologus they both serve as the host.

2018-01-09 17:09:24 UTC  

Two commonalities between the two of them: jew controlled and a threat to the aryan (white European) race.

2018-01-10 15:50:57 UTC  

It's funny how Faye puts America in the same category as Islamic nations.

2018-01-10 16:16:53 UTC  

As if it was white Americans who pushed Marxism onto the masses.

2018-01-10 16:48:13 UTC  

The "melting pot" metaphor to describe America was created by a man literally named Israel in 1908.

2018-01-10 16:48:53 UTC  

Israel Zangwill in his 1917 play created the term right?

2018-01-10 16:49:02 UTC  

about the Russian Jewish immigrant to America?

2018-01-10 16:49:35 UTC  

Yes, this fellow white right here:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396469069332611083/400692664787402752/Israel_Zangwill.jpg

2018-01-10 16:49:46 UTC  

dapper fellow

2018-01-10 16:59:03 UTC  

Honestly, his connections between the US using Muslims to keep Europe's power in check is an interesting theory, but of course we know the connections that Faye won't mention

2018-01-10 16:59:27 UTC  

However, we DO do that.... the US spreads Muslims around for little justification

2018-01-10 17:01:51 UTC  

We also have a pretty massive influence as a hegemonic entity of pushing diversity culture into Europe

2018-01-10 17:02:01 UTC  

He speaks more of governing bodies than populations

2018-01-10 18:01:02 UTC  

^^^^ what happened to the merchant reaction? Because thats who the feenchman wont name.

2018-01-10 18:08:54 UTC  

This server doesn't have it's own reactions yet.

2018-01-10 18:21:15 UTC  

Americans did spread diversity culture, but that culture was a result of European philosophies that originated before America was even founded.

2018-01-10 18:46:22 UTC  

Very true. Also, I don't think we want to be overly preoccupied with assigning moral blame to jews. If you let parasites manipulate and subvert your culture you can't really blame them for doing that. Jews are just acting in accordance with their nature and their collective interests. We need to look at the reasons why our culture has been unwilling to do the same. Faye and other French New Right thinkers are extremely useful in this regard.

2018-01-10 18:46:59 UTC  

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2018-01-10 18:47:05 UTC  

I also think it's worth emphasizing that if you are singularly focused on the JQ then you are probably not going to like Faye. I think most of us will find that Faye's approach to the JQ has its problems. While critiques of Faye from this perspective are valid, i would recommend people think about why he takes the positions he does rather than just continually point at the JQ because trust me that will get tiresome. I only say this because I've noticed a lot of discussions of Faye end up going in this direction.

2018-01-10 18:47:18 UTC  

These philosophies were writen in monolithic societies with monolythic audiences. Much like the Bible, modern Europeans are taking these teachings and applying them to out groups.

2018-01-10 18:49:55 UTC  

It was never intended to be this way & it is destroying us. Hyper altruism, ethnic masochism and the lack of a will to survive is driving it.

2018-01-10 21:30:48 UTC  

And to a degree Faye likely understands that directly going after that group would require energies in conversations he would rather not focus on

2018-01-10 21:31:37 UTC  

The JQ is an easy way to open yourself up to attacks and conversations structured to trap you in the "white nationalist ghetto"

2018-01-10 21:32:00 UTC  

The New Right in Europe would rather not have that conversation

2018-01-10 21:36:32 UTC  

We can attack the systems of oppression that have been set in place to oppress us, and prosecute those who are guilty, which will inevitably lead us to our "J controllers". Once their mechanisms are dismantled, those of us who have the answer to the JQ can wage a silent war against these people and expose them for what they are so we can be certain that they are never permitted to return to ANY western civilization.

2018-01-10 21:42:14 UTC  

I was listening to the the Tara McCarthy debate with Styxhexenhammer yesterday, and he proposed that an identitarian movement isn't necessary for us to fix our society. That is bullshit. The destruction of our ethnic cohesion is a huge weapon that has been leveled against westernkind, and if we do not repair the damage, we may be vulnerable to divide and conquer tactics by the same elitists in the future. I dont know about you goys, but I dont want this same bullshit repeated during the lifetime of my grandchildren....

2018-01-10 21:45:31 UTC  

The only issue I see with not naming them, is that when we attack their mechanisms of oppression, they retain credibility to counter those attacks perpetually; which we've seen over and over again. It's a tough strategic question that I'm still on the fence about. I think the merit of naming them, while it's a much steeper uphill battle, is being able to discredit their defense of these mechanisms.