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2018-01-05 03:27:01 UTC  

His criticisms of the Greens are pretty good

2018-01-05 03:27:21 UTC  

the Green party here is pretty similar - unwilling to embrace population reduction and nuclear energy

2018-01-05 03:27:54 UTC  

even if they sometimes do talk (correctly) about the importance of sustainable growth, rather than unlimited growth

2018-01-05 03:30:06 UTC  

I agree. He did a wonderful job defending his position on nuclear energy

2018-01-05 03:32:11 UTC  

[pg. 56] *"What disturbs our neo-Leftist ecologists is the objective power (military and economic) and independence that nuclear power offers Europe, as well as its technological implications. There’s a distinct logic to the Left’s struggle: weaken the European devil, censure her traditions and ancestral memories, defuse her technological and military power, smother her independence, corrupt her mores, and destroy her ethnic germen through immigration. Its anti-nuclear and propetroleum stances are but part of a concerted, multifaceted strategy to destroy the identity and continuity of European civilisation. The Left’s environmental concerns and defence of public health are simply crude, oily pretexts."*

2018-01-05 03:32:57 UTC  

There's an interesting divide between the Old and New Left concerning population-control. A socialist organizer who lives in my building and I found a lot of common ground when I chatted with him recently about overpopulation. And yet, similar conversations that I have had with younger leftists usually derail into Third Worldist rhetoric.

2018-01-05 03:35:27 UTC  

From personal anecdotes, people seem a lot more understanding of the wall and mass deportation when it phrased in environmental terms. Probably that CA is running out of land and water

2018-01-05 22:20:32 UTC  

Made it to chapter 3. Good read so far. Taking notes and will expand on them for the discussion.

2018-01-05 22:31:25 UTC  

Awesome man, look forward to hearing the commentary

2018-01-08 05:33:15 UTC  

He has an interesting idea of a convergence of catastrophes - i.e. that changes in climate, economy, and demographics will result the collapse in the current system

2018-01-08 05:34:28 UTC  

Personally I'm not sure, it seems like Macron or Sisi or Modi or Trump figures might instead predominate

2018-01-08 05:34:59 UTC  

more political repression, with token nationalist actions and a largely unchanged economic system

2018-01-08 13:39:52 UTC  

Political repression, out right police states to control destroyed societies. *if it doesnt change. @Nemets

2018-01-08 19:34:57 UTC

2018-01-08 19:35:12 UTC  

Great paragraph from page 39

2018-01-08 19:42:18 UTC  

> a rejection of aesthetics and the will to live

2018-01-08 19:46:23 UTC  

^ right. That’s a point that has been very understated but I think is widely felt by all of us. There’s no assertion of who you are and why you deserve to exist. It’s all taken for granted.

2018-01-08 19:54:46 UTC  

Heart problem.

2018-01-08 23:59:45 UTC  

I think the second chapter is out of place. Most sustainable energy pushes are good for government and big corporations. Conserving the environment is super important but commissioning a new nuclear facility costs billions and sometimes over a decade of planning

2018-01-09 00:00:49 UTC  

But it looks good, and has been marketed for us. It also gives us the impetus to highlight gross government overregulation and media frenzy over safer forms of energy

2018-01-09 01:18:54 UTC  

I think his point is that its better for Europe and bad for (((America))) and her (((ME allies))) long term. Pointing out American dominance is frustrating cause he doesnt name (((them)))

2018-01-09 06:01:26 UTC  

I see

2018-01-09 16:15:20 UTC  

@Deleted User Late to this discussion, but I agree with you. Saying America is responsible for the factors contributing to Europe's decline is like saying Russia is responsible for Bolshevism.

2018-01-09 16:41:51 UTC  

@XI Palaeologus they both serve as the host.

2018-01-09 17:09:24 UTC  

Two commonalities between the two of them: jew controlled and a threat to the aryan (white European) race.

2018-01-10 15:50:57 UTC  

It's funny how Faye puts America in the same category as Islamic nations.

2018-01-10 16:16:53 UTC  

As if it was white Americans who pushed Marxism onto the masses.

2018-01-10 16:48:13 UTC  

The "melting pot" metaphor to describe America was created by a man literally named Israel in 1908.

2018-01-10 16:48:53 UTC  

Israel Zangwill in his 1917 play created the term right?

2018-01-10 16:49:02 UTC  

about the Russian Jewish immigrant to America?

2018-01-10 16:49:35 UTC  

Yes, this fellow white right here:

2018-01-10 16:49:46 UTC  

dapper fellow

2018-01-10 16:59:03 UTC  

Honestly, his connections between the US using Muslims to keep Europe's power in check is an interesting theory, but of course we know the connections that Faye won't mention

2018-01-10 16:59:27 UTC  

However, we DO do that.... the US spreads Muslims around for little justification

2018-01-10 17:01:51 UTC  

We also have a pretty massive influence as a hegemonic entity of pushing diversity culture into Europe

2018-01-10 17:02:01 UTC  

He speaks more of governing bodies than populations

2018-01-10 18:01:02 UTC  

^^^^ what happened to the merchant reaction? Because thats who the feenchman wont name.

2018-01-10 18:08:54 UTC  

This server doesn't have it's own reactions yet.

2018-01-10 18:21:15 UTC  

Americans did spread diversity culture, but that culture was a result of European philosophies that originated before America was even founded.

2018-01-10 18:46:22 UTC  

Very true. Also, I don't think we want to be overly preoccupied with assigning moral blame to jews. If you let parasites manipulate and subvert your culture you can't really blame them for doing that. Jews are just acting in accordance with their nature and their collective interests. We need to look at the reasons why our culture has been unwilling to do the same. Faye and other French New Right thinkers are extremely useful in this regard.

2018-01-10 18:46:59 UTC