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my gf is the normie i could stand being around after i red pilled.
@Deleted User yeah that's a deeper connection, a solid couple has a dialogue based on trust and the mutual benefit of each other and the couple
@John O - I love Alt Hype and never miss a video, but on that one it may be a bit of "just so" thinking. That would require those people executed to have not had any children, or at least to have had far fewer children than the others in the population.
Yeah, the math isn't perfect, and he admits it, and he accounts for that
It's an interesting hypothesis and I like thinking about those sorts of things, but I don't think that's "all the way there" in terms of an explanation.
SOCIETY, MARKET - One of the appellations of present Western society — in which the market (or economic) function takes the place of the sovereign function and becomes the ultima ratio — the ultimate and unique horizon against which all political decisions are made.
This term is preferable to that of ‘capitalist society’. For it’s not a matter of condemning the market economy, but rather of deploring the market’s dictatorship over every other consideration (ecological, ethnic, aesthetic, social, etc.). The market can’t be everything and material exchanges can’t be the basis of social relations. In market society, everything has a price, but nothing is of value.
I don't think he *does* account for it.
Until you show me that those that got killed had no children, or 2 children, rather than 8, or something...
What happened with the Asians, then? They're less violent than Whites are. Were they running around executing too? Over what timeframe? It reeks of the sort of "just so" thinking that's in Guns Germs and Steel.
That's totally unprovable, and a common theme of Alt Hype is unprovable hypothesis. That's the problem with being an autodidact
I love it. "The Unprovable Hypothesis"
I always take him with a grain of salt. I never believe anything he says, it's just something to think on
Again I'm not casting shade on him, he's like one of my favorites.
He does excellent work.
He totally denies any European genocide of Native Americans, which is insane
Yeah that's a bit strange.
it was unintentional
they carried small pox with them that the indians had no immunity to
Well, there was Andrew Jackson as well
My understanding of Native American genocide comes from the Iron Maiden song "Run to the Hills".
And many like Jackson
I feel like a better path is to just say "yeah whites killed native americans, inter-civilizational conflict is nothing new"
i deny the indian shoah too, the indians were killing eachother, just like africans kill eachother
but so many died before jackson
that's like saying any battle is a genocide
this is the true story of the Native American genocide: https://youtu.be/86URGgqONvA
I mispoke, he doesn't deny a genocide, he denies any drop in population after Europeans showed up
Which is crazy too, John.
just cause they insisted on fighting and losing doesny mean its a genocide
Populations here were in flux already.
THIRD WORLDISM - Doctrine, on the Left and Right, which claims the Third World has been ‘exploited’ — and that it’s advisable to aid it, unceasingly, with financial and technological transfers, and to welcome its migrants.
Third Worldism is a snake that swallows its own tail: in claiming to aid poor countries, it deserts and divests itself of all actual responsibility for them. It imposes on these lands a Western economic model, destructive of local economies. One pities the Third World in terms of a self-culpabilising charity.
the difference between liberia and the ivory coast
Third World parasitism takes the following forms: 1. Direct financial costs in the form of lost loans, Europeanfinanced exports, the annulment of debt, etc. 2 . The cost of technical aid and cooperation, as well as technological transfers. Despite massive aid, no African or Arab country has ever attained even a modicum of economic balance. 3. The cost of exploiting raw materials in the Third World. For fifty years we’ve been told that we exploited the countries of the South. Their petroleum, raw materials, and their agriculture would, though, be of no use to Europe, if she thought geopolitically — in terms of a ‘Eurosiberian space’. No Muslim oil exporter, for example, would be able to exploit the subsoil reserves of his country on his own. These reserves have been discovered and exploited by foreign companies, who pay an enormous rent for them. Eurosiberia would have no need of Third World resources. 4 . The worst, the heaviest burden: dumping its excess population in Europe, which is equivalent to overwhelming her demographically and hamstringing her with an economic ball and chain.
TRADITION, TRADITIONALISM - Tradition is the ensemble of a people’s values and cultural structures, which are transmitted (tradere in Latin) from generation to generation — to form the scaffolding of its collective memory.
VALUES - Idea-forces and life rules that are translated into behaviours and transcend individual egoism, since they have no immediate utility, but constitute a long-term necessity for a community’s survival.
Some of the fundamental values, for example, are:
• A refusal of massification, as well as a narcissistic individualism,
• An affirmation of the creative inequality of the human race,
• Concern for a people and its historical destiny,
• Loyalty to a lineage (ethnic consciousness),
• Individual freedom as self-discipline,
• The precedence of communal solidarity over egoism,
• Cult of the aesthetic,
• Respect for life’s selectivity — and not ‘all’ life,
• The spirit of enterprise and creation . . .