@Tanner - SC I absolutely have low self-esteem because of my financial situtation. Because I genuinely cannot afford children right now, and have 0 career options, a combination of having been doxxed, having narcolepsy, and on top of that just am not that smart overall. I think you are implying I can make up for all that by just being "more confident"? Sure, if my goal is getting laid. That works. But mathematically, I cannot afford more children. That is the issue. @Alexander Pechorin Men do become more attractive in women's eyes, but biologically, our genes are always better younger. Generally men do become wiser, better educated, and tend to earn more. Biologically it is downhill for every man after 26, but again some athletes continue to perform well long after, because their skills tend to improve with training overtime, despite their bodies slowly beginning to decline after 26. The fact women find us more attractive doesn't deny that we are physically rotting just like they are, but in fact women's biology has them see our older selves as more attractive anyway. So yes, the "distinguished look" will make them feel more attracted to us, but that does not mean I will definitely be earning more, or that it will compensate for the physical prowness I will be losing

@missliterallywho We do love each other. If I could freeze her age wise until I was 44 myself, I would be more than happy with her.

Also as far as job "within the movement" this is also extremely unlikely. Also, to the extent that it is, I am limited by the same conditions that affect me in the general workforce.

What's your annual income?

Is the narcolepsy bad enough that you cannot operate a motor vehicle?

Loads of women have 4 children with drug dealers who make $20,000 a year. You can find a woman. Likely she won't be as intelligent nor as wealthy, but I think 4 children raised by a 100 IQ women in a financially rough household with 2 loving parents who stay together forever is better than 1 child with a very high likelihood of genetic defects raised by a dysfunctional broken household and a mother that's way older than any other mom in the child's peer group.

Loads of women are persuaded enough by feminism these days to not only tolerate, but be excited at the idea of a stay-at-home dad while she is the breadwinner. I wouldn't normally suggest this as an option, but since you had a life-altering injury, this scenario can make sense. Just find you a normal girl who is your age and raise a big family together. Average women can make plenty of money these days, we men have refined the workplace to be so efficient. Live in a smaller house with one car and boom, you can easily live on a single income from a woman.

@missliterallywho While this would be highly desirable, I don't have anything to market/sell/service to them. I mean, that would be great, but I still have to have some way to provide that service. I am still at square one. As far as trades go, the narcolepsy makes that difficult, especially really going far in a field to really be able to afford multiple children to a high quality woman.

IQ and money are not the end-all be-all.

IQ is the greatest predictor of life outcomes

Heck, there are single women in IE alone who are younger than 44.

@Jonaltright WRONG

single-mother household is the greatest predictor of life outcomes

The home life has a big impact.

From one sperg to another, you are sperging out over IQ

If Ms. 47 pumps out a IQ 90 kid, what would you do with yourself?

You'd go insane.

Have 4 children with a normal woman and raise them in a normal household environment.

Heck, have 8 children with a normal woman.

One of them will be a genious.

But you're over-sperging on IQ

You're putting the pussy on a pedestal. Oneitis.

@Tanner - SC You are or I am? I am not having a kid and not being involved. I am going to play a very active role. I am only having one child with her. She has WAY more financial resources than I do. Private school, white neighborhood, white church on sunday.

We literally do not intend to be together forever.

If the child wasn't as accomplished, it's true, this would be disappointing. So are alot of other really good bets in life

Be a stay-at-home dad. Homeschool. Boom, traditional environment and plenty of resources available for raising children.

There is so much more to a relationship that can be bad besides IQ and income

There are loads of average women out there working office jobs pulling $60,000 a year. Plenty of money to raise a big family.

And those women will be a life companion for you and your children, not some geriatric temporary breeding ground

@Tanner - SC I have to keep working at what I can, I hope to one day have enough to afford those 4 kids.

Small home, one car, homeschool, easily afford 4 kids with her earning an average office job salary

See that is the messed up part. The average woman making that much money, especially if she is my age, wants nothing to do with a guy like me. Its only because she knows finding someone who matches her financially is extremely difficult that this whole deal even works.

Bullshit

You're talking yourself out of success

The biggest obstacle to your goals is you

You're setting up barriers where there needn't be

How old are you Tanner?

Not every woman is seeking some dominating career climber

31

I know women with office jobs who are considering their husbands being stay-at-home dads

I just dated a 27 year old who was open to that. I wasn't, but she was.

Why were you not open to that?

Because I make a killing at work and I want a traditional home environment with the woman at home.

But if I was injured, I'd definitely be open to it