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loved by all who oppose christ... 😬

Would be a pretty weak Antichrist

Francis has done more harm than Biden will ever do, if anyone alive is the Antichrist it’s him

A antichirst because there multiple ones but there will be The antichirst

I agree. I think it is moreso pointing towards Rome.

Thoughts on Ken Copeland?

He preaches the prosperity gospel

Ken Copeland is demon possessed

People who lay hands on each other always run that risk of contracting demons

i think if you have the Holy Spirit you cant get possessed

I would agree with you.

Ken Copeland : "Wind of God"
Coronavirus : He he boii

I dont think most agnostics/athiests hate the religious, but instead take problem with religious constraints which attacks other people's rights, hence the endless debate on same-sex marriage and abortion. The image above is my brother and I talking about Karl Popper.

I'm an athiest and I have no problem with religious people they just come on a little strong. I would like to be part of a religion I just dont really believe in anything

If any religious people would like to inform me on their religion then I will gladly dm you

Personally I was starting to doubt God's existence, and reading the book Stealing from God by Frank Turek strengthened my beliefs knowing there was evidence to back them up

I used to be in a super religious family and I always questioned whether or not God was real and I just haven't seen any evidence

I will read the book as soon as I have the time though

Do you believe in the big bang?

Yeah I used to believe just because my parents did and I thought there was no evidence apart from maybe unexplainable miracles, but that book completely changed my perspective

You know a good channel I used to watch, answers in Genesis. That YouTube channel is a great faith strengthener.

I'll take a look at it!

You're always welcome to holler at me about Christianity. Note I haven't read the rest of the conversation yet, just your message about being willing to learn.

Jordan Peterson is a great source of knowledge for atheists. I was an agnostic for a long time, because I'm the kind of person who's much more interested in thinking about things analytically instead of...whatever it is that mainstream christian church-goers are after.

I don't personally believe that the worship we have now reflects what God wanted from people. All this talk about his glory and his forgiveness, it's like "Ok, what about actions?"

"Works can't get you into heaven."

Well, yes. But if you want to know what somebody truly believes, you look at their actions and not their words. Modern christians are strangely silent on that topic.

I've noticed that as well. You'd be a dishonest individual if you profess to be a good person, yet refrain from doing good actions. The man who was crucified alongside Jesus may been offered forgiveness, but if you truely do believe, yet do very little to help others, I find it to be hypocritical when said individuals say "You only need faith in God/Jesus to be given salvation." It brings to mind the parable of the Talents. The one servant took no risk at all. He technically *did* fulfill his master's wish, but his actions were seen as the least. He didn't *add* to it.

I don't think *good deeds* are the end all be all to being granted salvation. It is something freely offered so long as we bring God into our hearts. But it would be a terrible shame for us to not dance and delight in giving that love over to another. Some people may find it difficult to bridge the gap to love God, but don't have the same issue loving the goodness in Man. The goodness in Man is God's love shining through us and we reflect on to something else like mirror. Why do you think the two greatest commandments of God are "love the Lord thy God with all your heart" and the second being "love your neighbor as yourself"? If we struggle to love God, we can still love the part of God that shines in Man.

This is why I like Jordan Peterson.
He lets you know your actions *do* matter. And that's what the Catholics have been trying to hammer home. Yet if you're honest with yourself for even five seconds, it doesn't matter how religious you are, you realize that the number of failings you have as a person are often nearly limitless. And this is the Protestant view of things, that even if you know how horribly and miserably you've failed as a person, you can't let that mess with the Axiom that life is inherently good and that it has value.

I do like Jordan Peterson as well. His biblical talks, along certain works of C.S. Lewis that were broadcast by The BBC in WW2, are things that helped me to grapple with my own concerns about my faith... Many clergymen and supposed church leaders failed to help as well as two men I've never met did for me.

That may also be because I've accumulated a greater understanding of the world over the last several years that have been rather tumultuous for me.

Well, the more you knowledge you have of the world, the less modern Christianity covers the veneer that "everything is fine because it's in the lords hands" (which seems to be the stance of many modern churches). And if you've built your worldview on that, then it completely crumbles to dust once you exit the cathedral and dive into the real world. I mean, to shelter people to the extent that modern church does, it's a complete disservice to their members. Marx was wrong about just about everything, but as much as I hate to admit it, I can see where he was coming from when he said "Religion is the opiate of the masses." Because if all church exists to do is to pat members on the back and say "Everything will be fine", then there's no hope in that at all.

There aren't a whole lot of churches that give you the truth, which would be something along the lines of:

"Well, actually, everything is NOT fine. It's a hell of a long ways from being fine. It's a raging dumpster fire. But luckily, you're a human, and being human gives you a lot of options as far as how to go about fixing that. So let's dive into this book of ancient wisdom and try and see what we can salvage here."

Individuals will simply put their entire devotion to what they *think* is God. But that could very well cut out the legs from our capacity to even reach out to him... What I mean by that, is that assuming that our actions in this world do not matter, that it's in the Lord's hands, is something that doesn't exactly hold water in a scriptural sense. Jacob wrestled with God/ an Angel of his, Abraham bargained with God to try and spare Sodom to save Lot. Man has been capable of making a deal with God in the past. It means that our will *can* be levied to bring about something better that wouldn't have occurred if we didn't make the jump.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796560508097396757/802171062858547200/video0_71-1.mp4

This also shows in people reaching out to those that would otherwise be lost. C.S. Lewis was brought back into the fold because J.R.R. Tolkien decided to take multiple hours out of his day to help a friend. Tolkien's actions brought about a spiritual Awakening to Lewis. Lewis then went on to write multiple works explaining and defending Christianity. There is a possibility that I might have been a non-believer or, worse still, a lukewarm Christian if I never stumbled across Lewis's works... In a way, Tolkien's actions may have very well saved me, a man he never met, someone who was born decades after his death. Our actions, whether good or bad, *do* resonate into the future. "The sins of the father will be laid at the feet of the son." The failure of past generations can derail the future of others. Of all biblical accounts, the one that this is most obvious in is the Fall of Man. Through their defiance of God, the children of Adam and Eve killed one another. This is something that sickens me because I have a brother very close in age to me. I would not mentally survive if he betrayed me, and I'd never forgive myself if I betrayed him.

Good and bad actions act like a chain. Each action is a link. Goodness and mercy can bring light, and greed, deceit, and defiance can lead to damnation and Ruin.

Even the smallest things.

Alright. This has been inspiring. I need to go, but hopefully I'll be back soon.

Same here on this being a good talk, God bless and good luck, man.

Faith and religion are two different things. A "religion" can be anything. Faith is the path you want to approach a belief on. I'm a Christian but I'm not "religious."