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but here is the real problem
Psycopaths. From a young age they will kill helpless animals and later humans if they can get away with it.
If god is good, WHY would he allow something like that to be born. Something so fundamentally, morally and ethically broken to exist and not only be a broken thing that cant be fixed, but make one that willingly and knowingly enjoys the suffering of others or killing them?
Are they humans without souls?
I cant think of a good answer.
Hmm, i'm going to try my best and process this, and try and come up with an answer for you. :) I apologize that I may not be the best spoken or things may not come across the way I would like, but I would love to talk with you about it.
It bothers me that I dont have an answer or justification for this, because I normally do. Because they are people who without drugs and intense conditioning will not be functioning in society beyond killers which is a sin.
In the beginning, God created heaven and the earth. God created Adam and Eve and said go forth and multiply. But God also created the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil. He gave man a choice, and man chose poorly. They were driven out of the garden and became essentially evil. They wanted all the knowledge of God and sinned to get that. And this is when the earth 'fell'. Have you heard the statement that we live in a fallen world? That is because we sinned and fell into a world that had evil in it now. But anyways, from before you were born, God knew who you are and what your life would be. But here's the catch, we have free will. God may have a plan for us from birth, but we stray from that path. Parents can also be living a life of sin, and abuse their kids. A lot of the time kids who have psychopathic tendencies have suffered some form of trauma which causes emotional issues. But children born into a place of trauma are going to have life issues, God didn't create them that way, you know? But we are all broken until we find God. I believe even killers can be saved. But we just have to think that God didn't have that purpose for them, the broken world caused this.
I hope this answers some of it, feel free to ask me any other questions you might have, I enjoy theological questions. And trust me, I have questions and sometimes things bother me too. But that's part of having faith. We cant have all the answers.
The expression of “knitting in your mothers stomach” is to say that God gives you the breath of Life as He did to Adam and Eve. This doesn’t mean that He creates our sinful nature. He also says in the Bible that, “from [our] mothers loins [we] sin” (paraphrase). God gives life to all things that live, but He doesn’t change their sin nature
That’s a choice that the person themself has to make
Also from the moment we are born God gives us free will and since we are naturally fallen we tend to exploit our free will. Children when they are born do not fully understand what is moral. They develop an understanding of that through life. Kind of like what others are saying we are all lost and confused without God it is important to understand that without God ther ewouldn't even be morality so life without out him is lost.
I believe the answers you received are the full text, and the cliffs notes version 😂
Amen 🙏
"They were driven out of the garden and became essentially evil." If they had, then god should have killed them as the punishment WAS death as he said. And if he had consigned the rest of humanity to live being condemned from birth rather than starting over, how is that good?
"That is because we sinned and fell into a world that had evil in it now." WE never sinned, it was the sins of the father so to speak and if that is the case he could have simply prevented more evil from being born after a few generations. But again this is dodging some of the issue.
Psychopaths are born with an innate desire of irredeemable evil. Why would God allow a person to be born who is so morally and ethically broken they WONT make the right choice? I can justify the existance of evil choices but how is being evil from birth justified?
Yes yes yes, but HOW could a good God allow something that WILL kill and harm others at every chance they are given? Something that will not want redemption and may be incapable of feeling guilt or remorse.
I am not talking about someone who makes a bad life choice and shoots someone.
I am talking about a kid that kills little animals while they are young, getting older and moving on to more things an even children and then women and people and its more natural for them than swimming to a fish.
Because humans told God that they didn't want to live in His will, and because God allow us to abide by our choices
Prayer for one of my friends mom. She tested positive for COVID several days ago and the whole family is pretty freaked out And just now my friend just tested positive for COVID and flu 😣
They will be fine. Covid fatality is greatly exaggerated.
From a doctrinal perspective, no. Some members believe that we can become a God of our own planet(s) and such but it is not a church supported idea. It is mentioned in different places from the Book of Mormon that we can "become like unto God" or similar phrases. It's really up to personal interpretation. Some see it as we will one day be able to become perfect like God and others interpret it as saying we will be able to become a God like God.
Wtf? Nobody is born evil, that's like dumb af. I'm not some idiot who'll agree that there's no such thing as true evil in this world, cause that's false. There is true evil in this world, some people, some things, are just truly evil.
But, Nobody is born evil. Where does it say that in the Bible, that somebody is born evil?
Not sure how killing Animals affects a child, maybe I'm missing some kind of context here, but fishing, and hunting? That's totally normal, unless you mean like the Kid kills it despite not needing to kill it, and purely for fun. Then that MAY be a problem.
Do they have any underlying conditions?
That may affect them while having COVID?
Not that I know of but the dad does
Oh damn
Well, I'm sure they'll be fine as long as they're in God's hands.
The surest signs of Psycopaths are: Killing animals at a young age for no reason but to kill them, crapping yourself and the inability to understand emotions.
Psycopaths have no conscience
the feel no guilt, remorse or sense of wrong doing.
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Does that mean that diagnosed Psychopaths can't be saved in your opinion?
What does everyone tell you you have to do for salvation?
You must repent (Repent a word used for knowing you did wrong, accepting you did wrong and ask forgiveness for what you have done) and ask Jesus into your heart.
How can you repent if you A. Dont feel like you committed a wrong, B. Cannot feel remorse or guilt and and C. would do it again in heartbeat?
That is not what it means, in greek the word metanoia is used meaning a change of mind. it's not just emotions.
It was originally hebrew/arabic if you want to debate semantics.
The NT was written in greek