Message from @Jenjen
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Again I’ve never pretended to entertain your notions
Why would I reword it. In the first 30 seconds of the video you sent you showed that atheism bears the burden of proof. It was atheists who first challenged the common belief so it is they that must provide irrefutable evidence for their views
Why would atheist's have to follow the burden of proof?
But there is no reason that the burden of proof applies. There's nothing to prove.
but your making a positive argument in favor of your negative
Because by default the state of people is to believe in a god or in God. If that is the default position then anything other than the default must provide irrefutable evidence for their view and so much of it that they over whelm the default to become the new default
but you then claim evolution
You say evolution exists
you must prove evolution
Ok and since everyone here believes that He does, the burden of proof is on you to irrefutably prove your point
that too
im willing to engage
we have engaged you... i've been here for a log time being berated for not proving that god exists XD
Tu quoque
thank you 😃
cool thanks i'd love to continue our conversation
You keep deflecting when we engage you.
definitely interested
Sad
I posted some videos and articles
I'll leave yall with this, this is my bottom line. I cant prove that God exists, but i like what 1st Peter 1 says. "Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls." this is why we all believe what we do here.
There are a decent amount of times where it seems as though you became uncomfortable with a situation or displeased with it and so tried to deflect a criticism of your view onto the person making a criticism
That’s also a logical fallacy
Although if I’m being honest I don’t expect you to change your mind and I don’t believe you expect me to change mine
I bid you all farewell for now and have a good night for those of you for whom it is night/evening
Yes same God Bless
Good night y’all
God Bless you guys have a good night hopefully we can continue this conversation tomorrow
Really, scientist are content? The whole evolution theory stand on the first cells. If they can't prove it the evolution theory is dead.
I have never met any scientist that is content with the fact that there are many holes in the evolution theory.
Darwin was Catholic. The holes of evolution can be filled by adding God to the equation. But even then, Darwin rejected his own theory because it went against his beliefs. He never really intended for it to be something that was researched
I mean everything Darwin believed in also was disproved so idk
Well, natural selection and survival of the fittest are pretty accurate. But those are more of observations than theories.
Environment is also a factor
Just sending your child to Catholic school isn't enough; bring them to mass, teach them to be with God.
I came very late to this, but I was at work for much of it. Let me first say that I am a staunch Christian so my points will admittedly be of a Christian bias. Before I begin in depth, let me follow a short philosophical tangent if you so permit. Why wouldn't you want God to exist? Why wouldn't anyone? He sent His Son to die for us so that we could live. Suppose we were arrested for vandalism, or any other crime you can think of, and we had a real hard nosed jury. They sentenced us to death despite it typically not being an excessive punishment. The judgement gets sustained. However, the judge says that he will send his son to the gallows in your stead and all you have to do is believe that he will... and did. There's an analogy to Christianity, and even a light one as there are many sins that aren't crimes by the law we have written. Peak, you have spoken about the burden of proof. Can either side provide it to substantiate their claim well enough to persuade the other side of the aisle? Both sides will see perceived holes in the other that seemingly sink the ship yet both are still afloat. So even while we have some of the burden on us, there's still a heaping bit on you (forgive my Southern mannerisms and speech patterns but I'm from the Deep South). I'm not the best scientist, I'm a historian, so I will likely misstate something but bear with me. To begin with, let's look at the beginning.
(More coming by the way. A link will end it from me.)