Message from @Kanobiobiwan

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2021-02-03 03:30:05 UTC  

Lab settings don't happen naturally. You can "prove" anything in a lab setting because you can manipulate it

2021-02-03 03:30:40 UTC  

also, it didnt happen spontaniously in a lab setting, someone started it

2021-02-03 03:31:57 UTC  

But evolution is something that couldn't have been controlled. You can make anything happen if you control it. I can control a rock by picking it up, but that doesn't mean it'll pick itself up.

2021-02-03 03:32:30 UTC  

If you come up with a new theory you have the burden of proof, thus newer theories have burden of proof.

2021-02-03 03:33:03 UTC  

It's random, meaning that lab settings don't mean anything or prove anything

2021-02-03 03:33:04 UTC  

he has a point tho...

2021-02-03 03:33:44 UTC  

I’m not arguing in bad faith, I have never pretended to believe your claims

2021-02-03 03:34:15 UTC  

Yes you’re right you still haven’t irrefutably proven your point. It still lies with you

2021-02-03 03:35:13 UTC  

Why would any of us refute out points?

2021-02-03 03:35:18 UTC  

if you could refute your point then its a flawed point isnt it?

2021-02-03 03:35:23 UTC  

It doesn't make any sense

2021-02-03 03:36:00 UTC  

of course

2021-02-03 03:36:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801313357113458698/806367377616928768/image0.png

2021-02-03 03:36:13 UTC  

Again I’ve never pretended to entertain your notions

2021-02-03 03:36:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801313357113458698/806367481068257280/Screenshot_2021-02-02_at_10.36.10_PM.png

2021-02-03 03:37:25 UTC  

Why would I reword it. In the first 30 seconds of the video you sent you showed that atheism bears the burden of proof. It was atheists who first challenged the common belief so it is they that must provide irrefutable evidence for their views

2021-02-03 03:37:55 UTC  

Why would atheist's have to follow the burden of proof?

2021-02-03 03:38:59 UTC  

But there is no reason that the burden of proof applies. There's nothing to prove.

2021-02-03 03:39:11 UTC  

but your making a positive argument in favor of your negative

2021-02-03 03:39:24 UTC  

Because by default the state of people is to believe in a god or in God. If that is the default position then anything other than the default must provide irrefutable evidence for their view and so much of it that they over whelm the default to become the new default

2021-02-03 03:39:47 UTC  

but you then claim evolution

2021-02-03 03:39:49 UTC  

You say evolution exists

2021-02-03 03:39:54 UTC  

you must prove evolution

2021-02-03 03:40:04 UTC  

Ok and since everyone here believes that He does, the burden of proof is on you to irrefutably prove your point

2021-02-03 03:40:12 UTC  

that too

2021-02-03 03:41:33 UTC  

im willing to engage

2021-02-03 03:41:45 UTC  

we have engaged you... i've been here for a log time being berated for not proving that god exists XD

2021-02-03 03:41:59 UTC  

Tu quoque

2021-02-03 03:42:35 UTC  

thank you 😃

2021-02-03 03:42:50 UTC  

cool thanks i'd love to continue our conversation

2021-02-03 03:43:25 UTC  

You keep deflecting when we engage you.

2021-02-03 03:43:47 UTC  

definitely interested

2021-02-03 03:44:21 UTC  

You’ve ignored me

2021-02-03 03:44:27 UTC  

Sad

2021-02-03 03:44:43 UTC  

I posted some videos and articles

2021-02-03 03:45:10 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801313357113458698/806369664694353920/image0.jpg

2021-02-03 03:45:32 UTC  

I'll leave yall with this, this is my bottom line. I cant prove that God exists, but i like what 1st Peter 1 says. "Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls." this is why we all believe what we do here.

2021-02-03 03:45:34 UTC  

There are a decent amount of times where it seems as though you became uncomfortable with a situation or displeased with it and so tried to deflect a criticism of your view onto the person making a criticism

2021-02-03 03:45:40 UTC  

That’s also a logical fallacy

2021-02-03 03:46:13 UTC  

Although if I’m being honest I don’t expect you to change your mind and I don’t believe you expect me to change mine