Message from @Mercy

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2021-03-05 22:34:10 UTC  

We are not to kill because they are deserving

2021-03-05 22:34:24 UTC  

Justice and vengeance are two very different things

2021-03-05 22:34:33 UTC  

I'm just trying to say that killing can be wrong and can be right in some instances

2021-03-05 22:34:34 UTC  

I’m not saying go around killing people

2021-03-05 22:34:45 UTC  

That is actually a very fair argument.

2021-03-05 22:34:47 UTC  

But I do believe that murderers should be executed

2021-03-05 22:34:50 UTC  

5th commandment: Thou shalt not kill. Only exception is self defense

2021-03-05 22:35:16 UTC  

God commanded the Israelites to kill in justice countless times through the Bible

2021-03-05 22:35:17 UTC  

The more extreme ones

2021-03-05 22:35:24 UTC  

Or in a situation of protecting someone.

2021-03-05 22:35:25 UTC  

Ones that killed a lot

2021-03-05 22:35:37 UTC  

That is the civil authorities job.

2021-03-05 22:35:51 UTC  

How can murderers be more or less extreme? They’re still murderers

2021-03-05 22:36:03 UTC  

Didn’t say it wasn’t

2021-03-05 22:36:10 UTC  

There is a LOT of debate on ascribed vs prescribed commands in the bible.

2021-03-05 22:36:28 UTC  

You can kill one person or you can kill multiple people for a specific reason

2021-03-05 22:36:38 UTC  

It’s still murder

2021-03-05 22:36:55 UTC  

Some people will only kill once because someone drove them to far and will not kill again. Others will kill and enjoy it, and will kill again. There is a difference there.

2021-03-05 22:37:12 UTC  

The 5th commandment is talking about murder. War and just execution are not bound by the 5th commandment

2021-03-05 22:37:31 UTC  

No difference. Both took a life

2021-03-05 22:37:41 UTC  

Yes there is.

2021-03-05 22:38:04 UTC  

I believe NoMercys original argument was against what happened during the inquisition though.

2021-03-05 22:38:13 UTC  

Let me pose to you two examples Paul

2021-03-05 22:38:17 UTC  

Well yes that was unbiblical

2021-03-05 22:40:10 UTC  

Also I love how your name is “no mercy” and you’re advocating for mercy

2021-03-05 22:40:23 UTC  

Mercy from justice that is

2021-03-05 22:41:12 UTC  

God gives us mercy from his just wrath

2021-03-05 22:41:29 UTC  

Yes.

2021-03-05 22:41:55 UTC  

We all know about some particular individual who gained the title of a serial killer. The killed for no reason other than they felt a desire to do so. That is my first example, they kill for no reason, they kill because they like it, and they cannot be trusted not to do so again.

There was a man who had a very good friend of his who he helped out of the gutters. He even helped him get a job and he treated him like family. However this man he help, kidnapped his kid, took him and left with him after the abduction. Eventually he was found and captured and he had raped his boy. The man had all the evidence that would send him away for life. But in the transporting of him, the father shot him in the chest killing him and then surrendered and gladly accepted his prison time.

2021-03-05 22:42:28 UTC  

That man killed once, and would not kill again, because he wanted his boy to sleep at night knowing he was safe and he would never have to fear that man again.

2021-03-05 22:42:43 UTC  

That is someone pushed to their limit and killing.

2021-03-05 22:42:55 UTC  

That is an extreme argument

2021-03-05 22:43:06 UTC  

example

2021-03-05 22:43:09 UTC  

Its still a example of the differences.

2021-03-05 22:43:11 UTC  

sorry

2021-03-05 22:43:18 UTC  

Oh thats true.

2021-03-05 22:43:24 UTC  

I didnt make that story up.

2021-03-05 22:43:39 UTC  

I don’t agree with the man’s actions, I believe it is the laws place to punish, but I don’t think that is a case where the man should be executed

2021-03-05 22:43:40 UTC  

I didn't know that

2021-03-05 22:44:10 UTC  

I show no mercy in an argument when a person makes a bad one.

2021-03-05 22:44:34 UTC  

Genesis 6:9 “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his image”