Message from @terry

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2020-12-12 04:46:32 UTC  

or slower rate of innovation rather

2020-12-12 04:46:36 UTC  

Why would you want to invent if you didn't have a piece of paper saying nobody can use ur invention without your permission first so that you can profit from it?

2020-12-12 04:47:38 UTC  

because businesses compete, and it's not like inventions are made with just one person, they are built on previous work and when someone monopolies it means further derivative work can't be done as quickly

2020-12-12 04:48:04 UTC  

but on the rights issue, it's not like genuine property

2020-12-12 04:48:28 UTC  

like if you own a car you own it forever, what's the deal with having patents for just 5 - 10 years

2020-12-12 04:48:38 UTC  

why not for a life with ability to transfer to your children

2020-12-12 04:48:57 UTC  

U don't get my point

2020-12-12 04:49:38 UTC  

just be a right leaning egoist

2020-12-12 04:50:16 UTC  

though my main thing with is it overall rate of innovation, that patents actually slow down it

2020-12-12 04:50:47 UTC  

Do you think Star Wars would have been a thing if Lucas didn't know he could profit from it
Do you think lightbulbs would be a thing if Edison couldn't profit from them
Do you think TNT would be a thing if Nobel couldn't profit from it?

2020-12-12 04:51:23 UTC  

Nah,they would go work in some giant firm and waste their potential

2020-12-12 04:51:34 UTC  

Especially inventors

2020-12-12 04:51:56 UTC  

that's a utalitarian argument, and in regards to that, it removes a lot of the derivative work, i mean it's like saying do you think research would be done without government research

2020-12-12 04:52:07 UTC  

it's more about things done on net

2020-12-12 04:52:42 UTC  

plus before edison there were a bunch of light bulb prototypes

2020-12-12 04:52:50 UTC  

Yeah research would be without government research

2020-12-12 04:52:58 UTC  

It is

2020-12-12 04:52:58 UTC  

edison is a good poster child of dubiousness of IP actually

2020-12-12 04:54:15 UTC  

without government subsidies to farmers we will all starve

2020-12-12 04:54:45 UTC  

dur dur, see a couple of good things a less efficient policy did, that justifies it over a more efficient one

2020-12-12 04:55:40 UTC  

Government research is gay

2020-12-12 04:56:25 UTC  

it does occasionally pop out good stuff, it just costs a lot and private research delivers results faster

2020-12-12 04:57:03 UTC  

Yeah but private research would cost less and deliver more

2020-12-12 04:57:29 UTC  

the public research on aliens have gone well

2020-12-12 04:57:30 UTC  

fucking obama

2020-12-12 04:58:14 UTC  

it's in the self interest of the company with or without IP, without IP you just don't have the same government imposing a cost in expenses for a patent bureau and their bureaucracy

2020-12-12 04:58:32 UTC  

probably a consequence of abolishing patents is faster rate of smaller innovation

2020-12-12 04:58:50 UTC  

and less larger companies

2020-12-12 04:59:19 UTC  

Lmao,its more about the art industry really

2020-12-12 04:59:44 UTC  

But scientists who discover something deserve to profit from it too

2020-12-12 05:00:31 UTC  

deserve, what's next quoting carl marx, you are a wage slave heh jk

2020-12-12 05:01:41 UTC  

the people that spam the wagies meme are bottom of the barrel faggots

2020-12-12 05:01:49 UTC  

Its litteraly there to incentivize inovation lmao

2020-12-12 05:01:54 UTC  

Yes

2020-12-12 05:01:59 UTC  

there is incentive enough, it's called profit

2020-12-12 05:02:15 UTC  

even in a socialist/communist society they would never last

2020-12-12 05:02:25 UTC  

or demsoc/socdem/libsoc

2020-12-12 05:02:29 UTC  

or ancom

2020-12-12 05:02:41 UTC  

lots of different things, same meaning, same chopper

2020-12-12 05:02:55 UTC  

How is a scientist gonna profit from discovering say how to make a portal if there is no IP laws?

2020-12-12 05:03:06 UTC  

Seriously