yeah sure, how does it go for the intangible things though

someone made a dish, now suddenly you can't make it

there aren't patents on dishes, though some chefs pushed for it

Well he didn't invent it

how's that, it's a new one, nobody cooked it like him before

If you make a new invention thats different

patents are spooks

for me it's more of a practical thing, how patents slow down innovation

businesses still want to improve, and innovation is a highly collaborative process

lgbt is a spook

I don't see the point of patents

Seems to get in the way of progress

i mean it makes sense on a face value, like if someone can't recoup their costs they won't innovate

and we gonna be stuck with everything being the same, which i mean

or slower rate of innovation rather

Why would you want to invent if you didn't have a piece of paper saying nobody can use ur invention without your permission first so that you can profit from it?

because businesses compete, and it's not like inventions are made with just one person, they are built on previous work and when someone monopolies it means further derivative work can't be done as quickly

but on the rights issue, it's not like genuine property

like if you own a car you own it forever, what's the deal with having patents for just 5 - 10 years

why not for a life with ability to transfer to your children

U don't get my point

just be a right leaning egoist

though my main thing with is it overall rate of innovation, that patents actually slow down it

Do you think Star Wars would have been a thing if Lucas didn't know he could profit from it
Do you think lightbulbs would be a thing if Edison couldn't profit from them
Do you think TNT would be a thing if Nobel couldn't profit from it?

Nah,they would go work in some giant firm and waste their potential

Especially inventors

that's a utalitarian argument, and in regards to that, it removes a lot of the derivative work, i mean it's like saying do you think research would be done without government research

it's more about things done on net

plus before edison there were a bunch of light bulb prototypes

Yeah research would be without government research

It is

edison is a good poster child of dubiousness of IP actually

without government subsidies to farmers we will all starve

dur dur, see a couple of good things a less efficient policy did, that justifies it over a more efficient one

Government research is gay

it does occasionally pop out good stuff, it just costs a lot and private research delivers results faster

Yeah but private research would cost less and deliver more

the public research on aliens have gone well

fucking obama

it's in the self interest of the company with or without IP, without IP you just don't have the same government imposing a cost in expenses for a patent bureau and their bureaucracy

probably a consequence of abolishing patents is faster rate of smaller innovation