There's also one for full-stack if that's your thing, or iOS, too, I think.

A friend of mine is a web developer and he says the projects in this program are representative of the real world, so I'm confident I'll get a job when I'm done

Nice I actually did hear of that one maybe I’ll spend the cash

If you do, I can refer you for a discount, I think

@NuclearReactionary @VinceChaos vast majority of new front end devs in my experience now are coming out of code bootcamps, good choice!

starting salary at my company for fresh code camp grads is around 65-70k

Good to hear @ThisIsChris ! Do you know anyone that did Treehouse, specifically?

@NuclearReactionary I know a lot of people who've used Tree House to learn tools, myself included, but this is the first I'm hearing of their credential.

The main thing I would look for from a bootcamp graduate is do you have a portfolio to present? Most code camps spend a lot of time getting you to develop one.

Ok. Yeah, Treehouse does that. And like I said, a friend of mine said he thinks it represents real world work.

I’m gonna be disappointed if the starting salary isn’t more than that here, though. That would actually be a pay cut for me 😂 and I’m a teacher

Looking at indeed and paysa, I’m hopeful.

@NuclearReactionary where's "here"? my company's in manhattan which is usually pretty top dollar location. Only place I'm seen on the paycharts that regularly exceeds it is San Francisco.

Also, I don't want to judge, but if I could teach at a comparable or better salary then I would probably choose that, why do you want to change jobs?

My dad was a teacher, pretty good benefits, though I'm aware they've gotten worse depending on when you got into the system. But if you're making more as a teacher than 65k then you've probably been in it for a while.

I often recommend front-end dev work for people without a college degree or people who got a degree in underwater basket weaving and just woke up. 65k coding certainly beats retail, diner serving, or being a journalist as a career path. But I wouldn't take a pay cut from a respected job to do it. The pay scale does go up, of course, with years of experience. But life experience isn't going to transfer over that much, I'm sorry to say.

If you want to make a bigger salary and really need to code then it would make more sense to get a Computer Science degree. Since you have a Bachelor's already (I assume since you're a teacher) then I guess you would go for a Master's in CS degree.

They can make big bucks. With a Master's in CS degree + some internships, you can easily get 125k. (Not my field, I just know the salaries, kinda wish I had done more CS in school!)

Were you genuinely interested in coding/CS before you got started on this path or was it more pragmatism that took you this direction? For me it'd be more pragmatism. I feel like I could do it, it's just not a passion of mine.

I got a general business degree and I’m not even working in my chosen field. Considering a masters too but idk if I wanna spend way more money

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@Mick is that a question for me or NuclearReactionary?

@VinceChaos A Master's in what?

CS

@VinceChaos The opportunities with a Master's in CS are unparalleled. If you really like computers

That’s what I understand. You’ll get an offer months ahead of time in anticipation of graduation

It’s just the price

Yeah pretty much. Ideally you have time for a (paid) internship between your first and second year.

Nice. Yeah I’m using free products as of now. We’ll see what’s next

@ThisIsChris for you, but I'd love to hear what you have to say @NuclearReactionary

I heard of this great apprenticeship program from LinkedIn called Reach for programmers from non traditional backgrounds

@Mick yes I was very interested in coding. It really helps because even when you start working you learn a lot on the job but it helps a lot to learn outside of work too.

Recommending the podcast “learn to code with me” if you drive a lot like I do and feel guilty if you can’t seem to find the time to code

@ThisIsChris I've only taken a couple of introductory courses when I was younger. So I only have a very basic understanding of what goes into coding. Just made a basic website once really. It was actually kind of fun. I've the means to go back to school, eventually, it's just a matter of when at this point really. And for what.

@Mick I'll DM you

Sorry, lotta questions to answer. In order:
1. "Here" is San Jose.
2. I fell into teaching and I'm not crazy about it. Also, I'm at a private school, which doesn't necessarily mean high salary (you'd assume that, but it's not always the case). Most importantly: no pension.
3. Yes, I'm interested in CS now. Hindsight being 20-20, I definitely got the wrong degree: Music Business/Technology. I just was never exposed to CS or didn't think I could do it.
4. A Masters in CS isn't really an option; schools won't consider a BA good enough.

indeed.com

paysa.com

@Mick

@VinceChaos I've always been a little put-off by that learntocodewith.me site. That's the podcast you're referring to, right?

But I've never listened to her podcast. It's good, you say?

I got valuable info the first episode I listened to

About that reach program