Athens was not real democracy

"individualism" of people within a state can only work within the lines it does never threat the state or it's goals.

*menshervik

hello putin

the aristocratic democracies of the classical and mediaeval age were cool i suppose

''ya keep ahppealin to naytuh''

Real unicorns coming out of the sky and giving me a pizza has never been tried

F

😔

real pedophilia has never been tried

I think that one actually has

on second thought

this was probably just

scottish

it has, it's called "belgium"

fricken gottem'

man they are talking in circles

im bored

* dad joke *

because if you don't meet your basic material means you DIE

Just use the Iron law of oligarchy, it's very convincing @Erlik ᚯ

wtf i love belgium now

at this point I am convinced that only pol tards read hobbes

That's "human nature" you can probably prove beyond a shadow of a doubt

ok jimmy saville

my tastes are more.. refined

Have you heard of Siege?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778762615215226884/804122938113654794/image0-15.gif

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-jerry-leaves-im-leaving-gif-11845945

Who is hobbes?? can someone pitch??

thomas hobbes

I think he was more of a catcher

"siege" is a homosexual loveletter

BAHAHAHAH

indo-aryan, scythian pilled

"can you demonstrate an aboslute?" ofc not, it only has to be historically conistent

He "developed" the idea of the social contract @DEUTERIUM ISOTOPovich

very redpilled

I know who hobbes is

this dude is so disingenuous it's incredible