because if you don't meet your basic material means you DIE

Just use the Iron law of oligarchy, it's very convincing @Erlik ᚯ

wtf i love belgium now

at this point I am convinced that only pol tards read hobbes

That's "human nature" you can probably prove beyond a shadow of a doubt

ok jimmy saville

my tastes are more.. refined

Have you heard of Siege?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778762615215226884/804122938113654794/image0-15.gif

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-jerry-leaves-im-leaving-gif-11845945

Who is hobbes?? can someone pitch??

thomas hobbes

I think he was more of a catcher

"siege" is a homosexual loveletter

BAHAHAHAH

indo-aryan, scythian pilled

"can you demonstrate an aboslute?" ofc not, it only has to be historically conistent

He "developed" the idea of the social contract @DEUTERIUM ISOTOPovich

very redpilled

I know who hobbes is

this dude is so disingenuous it's incredible

wuz a jok

@Jacques de Chan did you ever get a new twitter

no

@DEUTERIUM ISOTOPovich he's the tiger in Calvin and hobbes

yeah i read hob

Innante competion

😂

Woland you were killing him at the start but he's clearly taken too many philosophy 101 classes on Hobbes, get him off Hobbes

What you're saying isn't even reliant on any of Hobbes specific claims

He's just trying to box you into hobbesianism and attack that

he's got woland pinched by obsessing over indidual's ethics

Yeah

just say "blood, culture & tradition"

he's pinpointing you on materialism

>individual ethics

Let's gooo

>libertarian

checks out

the moment it was clear he was not a proper socialist the thing should have been called off

just call him gay that should do it