Message from @BigJim

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2021-02-05 09:10:39 UTC  

Ya already was tried

2021-02-05 09:10:51 UTC  

And it failed so therefore it can never succeed?

2021-02-05 09:11:12 UTC  

Popular front won in French elections in 1930's when socdems were far more radical

2021-02-05 09:11:23 UTC  

It didn't fail, it implemented large scale welfare

2021-02-05 09:11:36 UTC  

But it didn't end bourgois monopoly on power

2021-02-05 09:11:38 UTC  

All but the most primal of ideologies take time to be introduced effectively. Failures come before success.

2021-02-05 09:11:41 UTC  

Ok

2021-02-05 09:11:57 UTC  

Do you want to remove the bourgois?

2021-02-05 09:12:01 UTC  

Just curious

2021-02-05 09:12:12 UTC  

What changed this time? What's different this time that it will change the outcome

2021-02-05 09:12:39 UTC  

Socio-economic conditions?

2021-02-05 09:12:47 UTC  

Strategy

2021-02-05 09:12:50 UTC  

Ok what changed

2021-02-05 09:12:55 UTC  

Learning from past mistakes can be useful

2021-02-05 09:12:59 UTC  

No give me specific examples

2021-02-05 09:13:07 UTC  

Again with vauge trash

2021-02-05 09:13:52 UTC  

I want you to give me specific examples of what socio-political and socio-economic conditions changed that this time will work

2021-02-05 09:14:09 UTC  

Ok

2021-02-05 09:14:28 UTC  

If anything they're even less likely to bring about a socialist movement lol

2021-02-05 09:14:30 UTC  

Keep in mind socdems have recently been quite unpopular here in Europe

2021-02-05 09:14:56 UTC  

The regular persons views on socialism, race, gender, democracy and freedom have changed over time have they not?

2021-02-05 09:15:01 UTC  

Creating different conditions

2021-02-05 09:15:07 UTC  

I am going to have to go now sorry

2021-02-05 09:15:14 UTC  

I will VC another day

2021-02-05 09:15:17 UTC  

No you fucking moron, I want to give me political changes

2021-02-05 09:15:26 UTC  

You repeat how masses got more liberal

2021-02-05 09:15:37 UTC  

I don't care about masses and their opinions

2021-02-05 09:15:46 UTC  

LMAO

2021-02-05 09:15:52 UTC  

It's like line in the sand, always changing

2021-02-05 09:15:56 UTC  

so dense

2021-02-05 09:16:08 UTC  

So the masses can change their views over time?

2021-02-05 09:16:15 UTC  

@BigJim just found out where you live

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793519133177675802/807177763425222666/iu.png

2021-02-05 09:16:31 UTC  

Does not really matter as long as class conflict is completely pacified, which it is

2021-02-05 09:16:35 UTC  

bruhhh

2021-02-05 09:16:40 UTC  

@BigJim morals ya, but that's shifting

2021-02-05 09:16:40 UTC  

You got me

2021-02-05 09:16:58 UTC  

he did actually

2021-02-05 09:17:04 UTC  

Also morals are relevant so long situation is stable

2021-02-05 09:17:20 UTC  

In case of social disintegration masses go back to factory settings

2021-02-05 09:18:13 UTC  

What exactly do you mean by "factory settings"? Please elaborate

2021-02-05 09:18:19 UTC  

Also if let's say you are true Europe by your logic should be socdem yet recently left wing has been politically beaten here