Message from @Erlik ᚯ

Discord ID: 807176492303646740


2021-02-05 09:07:08 UTC  

What about a post liberal democracy with a more socialism based economy?

2021-02-05 09:07:20 UTC  

How?

2021-02-05 09:07:49 UTC  

Democracy can exist free from the capitalism of liberalism

2021-02-05 09:07:54 UTC  

At least theoretically

2021-02-05 09:08:03 UTC  

I don't see any reason why it couldn't

2021-02-05 09:08:07 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793519133177675802/807175716726505502/image0.png

2021-02-05 09:08:16 UTC  

Give me a strategy

2021-02-05 09:08:29 UTC  

Like how do you envision your side getting this into power

2021-02-05 09:08:38 UTC  

Sure

2021-02-05 09:08:57 UTC  

You say vauge stuff and never justfy it

2021-02-05 09:09:21 UTC  

Push socialist policy though exploitation of liberal democracy along with workers movements.

2021-02-05 09:09:32 UTC  

How?

2021-02-05 09:09:53 UTC  

Socialist organising

2021-02-05 09:10:02 UTC  

@РАУЛЬ☭🇸🇾 bro you gotta read this, this is your brain on socdems

2021-02-05 09:10:15 UTC  

Trying to win voters, union organsing

2021-02-05 09:10:18 UTC  

> Socialist organising
@BigJim
We already have unions, labor parties etc....

2021-02-05 09:10:27 UTC  

Ya and that has been already done

2021-02-05 09:10:27 UTC  

Socialist leaning candidates

2021-02-05 09:10:39 UTC  

Ya already was tried

2021-02-05 09:10:51 UTC  

And it failed so therefore it can never succeed?

2021-02-05 09:11:12 UTC  

Popular front won in French elections in 1930's when socdems were far more radical

2021-02-05 09:11:23 UTC  

It didn't fail, it implemented large scale welfare

2021-02-05 09:11:36 UTC  

But it didn't end bourgois monopoly on power

2021-02-05 09:11:38 UTC  

All but the most primal of ideologies take time to be introduced effectively. Failures come before success.

2021-02-05 09:11:41 UTC  

Ok

2021-02-05 09:11:57 UTC  

Do you want to remove the bourgois?

2021-02-05 09:12:01 UTC  

Just curious

2021-02-05 09:12:12 UTC  

What changed this time? What's different this time that it will change the outcome

2021-02-05 09:12:39 UTC  

Socio-economic conditions?

2021-02-05 09:12:47 UTC  

Strategy

2021-02-05 09:12:50 UTC  

Ok what changed

2021-02-05 09:12:55 UTC  

Learning from past mistakes can be useful

2021-02-05 09:12:59 UTC  

No give me specific examples

2021-02-05 09:13:07 UTC  

Again with vauge trash

2021-02-05 09:13:52 UTC  

I want you to give me specific examples of what socio-political and socio-economic conditions changed that this time will work

2021-02-05 09:14:09 UTC  

Ok

2021-02-05 09:14:28 UTC  

If anything they're even less likely to bring about a socialist movement lol

2021-02-05 09:14:30 UTC  

Keep in mind socdems have recently been quite unpopular here in Europe

2021-02-05 09:14:56 UTC  

The regular persons views on socialism, race, gender, democracy and freedom have changed over time have they not?

2021-02-05 09:15:01 UTC  

Creating different conditions

2021-02-05 09:15:07 UTC  

I am going to have to go now sorry