Strategy

Ok what changed

Learning from past mistakes can be useful

No give me specific examples

Again with vauge trash

I want you to give me specific examples of what socio-political and socio-economic conditions changed that this time will work

Ok

If anything they're even less likely to bring about a socialist movement lol

Keep in mind socdems have recently been quite unpopular here in Europe

The regular persons views on socialism, race, gender, democracy and freedom have changed over time have they not?

Creating different conditions

I am going to have to go now sorry

I will VC another day

No you fucking moron, I want to give me political changes

You repeat how masses got more liberal

I don't care about masses and their opinions

LMAO

It's like line in the sand, always changing

so dense

So the masses can change their views over time?

@BigJim just found out where you live

Does not really matter as long as class conflict is completely pacified, which it is

bruhhh

@BigJim morals ya, but that's shifting

You got me

he did actually

Also morals are relevant so long situation is stable

In case of social disintegration masses go back to factory settings

What exactly do you mean by "factory settings"? Please elaborate

Also if let's say you are true Europe by your logic should be socdem yet recently left wing has been politically beaten here

By factory settings I mean they go back to tribalism

Ok

@BigJim why are more liberal masses of Europe electing right wing parties if what you are saying correct?

It doesn't help that many exploit tribalism to gain power by pitting groups against each other and scapegoating in times of crises.

Ya political reality

People also exploit social democracy to gain power, what's your point?

The right-wing is winning due to strategy. They use simple strategy that appeals to people.

wait till this nigga learns about realpolitik

@BigJim how can it appeal to people if they are more liberal according to you

It is possible for people to become liberal and then to become reactionary again

Or could it be that due to liberal decline people prioritize themselves more than liberal values