Message from @Erlik ᚯ
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Probably
Violent socialism will result in what we already had aka Soviet Union
What about a post liberal democracy with a more socialism based economy?
How?
Democracy can exist free from the capitalism of liberalism
At least theoretically
I don't see any reason why it couldn't
Give me a strategy
Like how do you envision your side getting this into power
Sure
You say vauge stuff and never justfy it
Push socialist policy though exploitation of liberal democracy along with workers movements.
How?
Socialist organising
Trying to win voters, union organsing
> Socialist organising
@BigJim
We already have unions, labor parties etc....
Ya and that has been already done
Socialist leaning candidates
And it failed so therefore it can never succeed?
Popular front won in French elections in 1930's when socdems were far more radical
It didn't fail, it implemented large scale welfare
But it didn't end bourgois monopoly on power
All but the most primal of ideologies take time to be introduced effectively. Failures come before success.
Ok
Do you want to remove the bourgois?
Just curious
What changed this time? What's different this time that it will change the outcome
Socio-economic conditions?
Strategy
Ok what changed
Learning from past mistakes can be useful
No give me specific examples
Again with vauge trash
I want you to give me specific examples of what socio-political and socio-economic conditions changed that this time will work
Ok
If anything they're even less likely to bring about a socialist movement lol
Keep in mind socdems have recently been quite unpopular here in Europe
The regular persons views on socialism, race, gender, democracy and freedom have changed over time have they not?