Message from @Hostis Publicus
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Ok what changed
Learning from past mistakes can be useful
No give me specific examples
Again with vauge trash
I want you to give me specific examples of what socio-political and socio-economic conditions changed that this time will work
Ok
If anything they're even less likely to bring about a socialist movement lol
Keep in mind socdems have recently been quite unpopular here in Europe
The regular persons views on socialism, race, gender, democracy and freedom have changed over time have they not?
Creating different conditions
I am going to have to go now sorry
I will VC another day
No you fucking moron, I want to give me political changes
You repeat how masses got more liberal
I don't care about masses and their opinions
LMAO
It's like line in the sand, always changing
so dense
So the masses can change their views over time?
bruhhh
You got me
he did actually
Also morals are relevant so long situation is stable
In case of social disintegration masses go back to factory settings
What exactly do you mean by "factory settings"? Please elaborate
Also if let's say you are true Europe by your logic should be socdem yet recently left wing has been politically beaten here
By factory settings I mean they go back to tribalism
Ok
@BigJim why are more liberal masses of Europe electing right wing parties if what you are saying correct?
It doesn't help that many exploit tribalism to gain power by pitting groups against each other and scapegoating in times of crises.
Ya political reality
People also exploit social democracy to gain power, what's your point?
The right-wing is winning due to strategy. They use simple strategy that appeals to people.
wait till this nigga learns about realpolitik
@BigJim how can it appeal to people if they are more liberal according to you
It is possible for people to become liberal and then to become reactionary again
Or could it be that due to liberal decline people prioritize themselves more than liberal values
Change can go both ways