And then you have terror, camps etc.....

Ya

But it only goes to my point

Those extreme ideologies could be socialist, anarchist or communist.

They could also be fascist or islamist

Violent Socialism has been tried multiple times and always ended in ethnic hegemony

Depending on circumstance

Anarchists will always fail

Communist attempt will fail and degenerate into state socialism

Which itself will go to ethnic hegemony

Again it's all been tried and tested

Nothing changes bro

superior intellect yet you havent convinced him, curious

What?

You can't remove big money from liberal democracy

You need violence

Probably

Violent socialism will result in what we already had aka Soviet Union

What about a post liberal democracy with a more socialism based economy?

How?

Democracy can exist free from the capitalism of liberalism

At least theoretically

I don't see any reason why it couldn't

Give me a strategy

Like how do you envision your side getting this into power

Sure

You say vauge stuff and never justfy it

Push socialist policy though exploitation of liberal democracy along with workers movements.

How?

Socialist organising

@РАУЛЬ☭🇸🇾 bro you gotta read this, this is your brain on socdems

Trying to win voters, union organsing

> Socialist organising
@BigJim
We already have unions, labor parties etc....

Ya and that has been already done

Socialist leaning candidates

Ya already was tried

And it failed so therefore it can never succeed?

Popular front won in French elections in 1930's when socdems were far more radical

It didn't fail, it implemented large scale welfare

But it didn't end bourgois monopoly on power