why

I fucking don't care anymore

why are you duch a how

@AquaRegia I will let you stay just stop having any interaction with me

why are you having a gay argument

> And you will say that until it succeeds.
@BigJim
How will it succeed?

If times get hard enough in a nation it may be possible to democratically push that. If not perhaps more violent means may be necessary.

You will fall to the ground if you jump

You: and you will say that until I fly

You should be a little more hopeful

chungus jim is now socialist apparently

> If times get hard enough in a nation it may be possible to democratically push that. If not perhaps more violent means may be necessary.
@BigJim
If times gets hard people that share my worldview take charge

Uh oh

They put people with extreme worldview to fix their problems immediately

the liberal socialism pipeline

I don't know if that will necessarily happen. Extreme times lead to extreme ideologies.

And then you have terror, camps etc.....

Ya

But it only goes to my point

Those extreme ideologies could be socialist, anarchist or communist.

They could also be fascist or islamist

Violent Socialism has been tried multiple times and always ended in ethnic hegemony

Depending on circumstance

Anarchists will always fail

Communist attempt will fail and degenerate into state socialism

Which itself will go to ethnic hegemony

Again it's all been tried and tested

Nothing changes bro

superior intellect yet you havent convinced him, curious

What?

You can't remove big money from liberal democracy

You need violence

Probably

Violent socialism will result in what we already had aka Soviet Union

What about a post liberal democracy with a more socialism based economy?

How?

Democracy can exist free from the capitalism of liberalism

At least theoretically

I don't see any reason why it couldn't

Give me a strategy

Like how do you envision your side getting this into power