Message from @Havamal

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2017-08-29 18:32:23 UTC  

More of an AV thing, but anyone here going to CEDIA?

2017-08-30 15:49:07 UTC  

No sir.

2017-08-31 02:02:33 UTC  

Great posts in this topic @Lebens and @Deleted User. Very active and great coverage

2017-08-31 02:07:17 UTC  

Ty

2017-08-31 02:11:44 UTC  

Thanks!

2017-08-31 23:03:28 UTC  

Hey @Deleted User I have a question for you, in that picture of your tool layout, between your scissors and drywall saw, what is that thing with the gray wire nut on one end? I can't make it out in that picture.

2017-08-31 23:04:39 UTC  

is it a rat tail file?

2017-08-31 23:07:06 UTC  

It's a small triangular file that I used to dress screws and things that I have cut or deburr an edge

2017-08-31 23:07:36 UTC  

I used to carry a rat tail file to ream the inside of conduits when I cut it. I now use one end of my channel locks that's why they are skinned to go inside the end of a piece of conduit

2017-08-31 23:13:53 UTC  

oh ok. I couldn't make it out. I thought you had some new tool I hadn't seen yet ahah

2017-09-03 15:27:08 UTC  

@Lebens Did you dingo that trench?

2017-09-03 17:05:08 UTC  

No. Igave the customer the option for an additional $2k. He chose in his words to find some lesser mexicans to dig it. I spray painted the run last week. However my apprentice and i back filled it

2017-09-05 04:05:27 UTC  

Noob, here. My water heater stopped working. Saw that the circuit breaker was switched to the off position for the water heater at the breaker box. Should I replace the breaker or The element on the water heater?

2017-09-05 04:07:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/354477736536047626/IMG_20170905_000746.jpg

2017-09-05 04:53:49 UTC  

The breaker is in the tripped position. Turn it to the off position and then try to turn it back on. If the breaker trips immediately then a heating element is shorted out and needs to be replaced. Depending on the age of the water heater you may want to consider replacing it. @Havamal

2017-09-05 14:07:03 UTC  

It does trip immediately when turned back on.

2017-09-05 14:37:11 UTC  

You have a short brother

2017-09-05 14:37:27 UTC  

Lol. For want of a comma.

2017-09-05 14:37:37 UTC  

You have a short, brother.

2017-09-05 14:38:41 UTC  

@Havamal Did you do any work recently at your house? Did you hang any pictures?

2017-09-05 14:41:07 UTC  

@Deleted User Haha, he is pretty tall.

2017-09-05 14:41:56 UTC  

@John O - No, I haven't.

2017-09-05 14:46:27 UTC  

Everything else in the house seems to be working just fine. I put an inquiry in on the AO Smith website because the element is 208 volts and 3500 watts, which apparently is rare, even on their website, Lowe's, and Home Depot websites.

2017-09-05 14:47:27 UTC  

It probably wasn't that, it's just a personal paranoia.

2017-09-05 14:47:40 UTC  

Hmmm

2017-09-05 14:48:26 UTC  

If you have a multimeter, and you want to spend a little while in the init, you can always try to diagnose it yourself.

2017-09-05 14:50:08 UTC  

I might try that. I need to get a multimeter. I also have a discounted service plan with plumbers and electricians through a package when I bought my house.

2017-09-05 14:54:31 UTC  

My dad suggested the element going bad. He is prone to paranioa, but knows a lot more than me when it comes to this stuff. Thanks, guys.

2017-09-05 16:23:17 UTC  

@Deleted User I'm about to qualify to take my Journeyman's test. I have two options for the next few years:

1) Stay with the company that I started with, who have told me numerous times that I am foreman material, but are the lowest paying electrical contractor in the state

Or 2) Move to a rich, liberal city, save some money, find a state that I want to live in permanently, buy some property, and start working towards my Master's

Obviously, becoming Master is the next step, but would it be too bad to put it off until I'm 30?

2017-09-05 17:10:00 UTC  

@Havamal sorry I've been at work. If you go to the water heater and disconnect the two wires that go into the water heater and feed it and cap them off and turn the breaker on if it holds and does not trip then your heating element is bad. I don't recall exactly how much they are but you drain the water out take a big wrench or socket remove the heating element and then reverse the process and turn it back on

2017-09-05 17:12:07 UTC  

I've taken the POS and neg off the element and tried to flip the breaker and it still is tripped.

2017-09-05 17:13:02 UTC  

I didn't cap them, though

2017-09-05 17:14:34 UTC  

@John O - a lot of contractors will continue to blow smoke up your ass as long as you let them. If you pass your journeyman's test I would ask for a little bit more on the hour maybe a dollar. I do not know how busy you are or how much work is in your area. Any experience is good experience. If you're in an area where work is ample sometimes you will benefit by making a move to another contractor. I was 31 before I got my Master's license but you did not really have to have one at that time. Now you're supposed to have a master electrician on each job here in my state.

2017-09-05 17:15:45 UTC  

@Havamal you know you have to turn the breaker to the complete off position first and then back to on. If the element shorted out it could have taken out the breaker with it. You need to pull the panel cover off disconnect the two wires from the breaker and try to turn the breaker back on if the breaker holds then the wires compromise somewhere between the panel and the heating element

2017-09-05 17:16:16 UTC  

I'll try that. Thanks! @Deleted User

2017-09-05 17:17:43 UTC  

@Havamal okay yes if you take the wires off and reset the breaker and it won't hold then the breaker is bad but the heating element may be bad as well. If you have a continuity meter you can test the heating element. Put the meter on continuity and put one lead on each of the two screws where the heating element was fed. If it does not ring continuous then it is open. You can also test from each screw to the metal shell of the water heater to see if it's shorted to ground. Basically if it does not ring continuous the element is bad

2017-09-05 19:33:58 UTC  

@Deleted User In Florida, you only need one Journeyman per 4 workers, but that's not enforced. You don't need a Master on the job.

2017-09-05 19:34:27 UTC  

The only reason to get the license is for the Contractor license.

2017-09-05 19:35:59 UTC  

I'm probably going to go with option 2. Just wanted to see if you had any relevant advice one way or the other.

2017-09-05 19:38:26 UTC  

I don't think they're blowing smoke up my ass. Construction is booming here, and they need guys who can show up sober to be management.

2017-09-05 19:46:32 UTC  

Yes it is similar here once you have over certain amount of men on a job you need to have any Master on the job.