Message from @NickTheGreek
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it was fine when we had limited franchisement
Yeah wasn't it land owning men back at the founding?
yes
i think in the coming years we will have a crossing the rubicon moment
im not really siege pilled
but i think we will have a sincere leader with Faustian spirit sieze control thorugh a constitutional crisis, not trump though.
i think we will lose 2024 then in 2028 we will win and i think thats when it will happen
Eh I don't see something like that happening imo. It depends on how divided the country is by that point and just how big of a crisis there will be.
I couldn't see something like that happening given the current lack of interest most have in politics
i dont know, i get kind of blackpilled sometimes about stuff, like how nobody in our government cares at all about us
not one
same. Fuentes and his America First stuff has been a whitepill for me though. Telling people to go to county GOP meetings, living good lives and starting families is the best way to turn things around.
If the culture can shift the politics will get better
Best of all it's a realistic goal
There's no larpy "rise up!" message
oh and btw all this crossing the rubicon stuff is not good optics, we should n't advocate for it at all, just a prediction about the future
I gotcha it's not an unreasonable prediction
yeah its not unreasonable to say that our current situation is not tenable, but le read siege is terrible, nobody should want a real civil war
it would not go as you think
we would just get invaded
if one did start then maybe events would transpire as i described as a way to end it as quick as possible
Even if the balance of power were even it would be horrible
It may even be worst. If an actual war with modern weapons was waged in America the infrastructure would be destroyed
there would be no balance of power if a real open civil war started russia or china would just invade pretty quickly
oof well we just shitted up history chat
back to history
Would you have supported Caesar in the civil war with Pompey?
probably
The main thing is stop our New Rome sinking to the step that we have to choose between Caesar and Pompey
SPQR is already dead in the era of trilogy
@Deleted User depends on what you mean democracy
do you mean very limited suffrage, i.e., only a small portion of the people get to make the decisions?
I asked the question because I wanted to know if there is a republican form of government without any type suffrage
Or if all republics have some degree of democracy
The closest you can get to that is what we originally had.
White male landowners who had actual stock in the country they were voting to rule.
Or
do what the Holy Roman empire did,
except on a much larger scale,
have inheritated positions of power which are capable of voting.