Message from @NickTheGreek
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in recent months i have grown further and further anti democracy
i think the most reasonable return into a real republic is to set maybe wealth and military service requirements for voting and serving an office
this wont completely eliminate minority and women voting but will reduce it
a repeal of race/gender suffrage directly would never pass for along time
The feasible way to do that is to limit the franchise to taxpayers
If you don't pay taxes you don't vote
even that is too broad i think
are all republics democratic?
maybe certain tax brackets
no
democracy =/= republic
republics can have democratic tendencies
but are not truly democratic
example?
i think the ideal republic would feature a senate:
consisted of members of the highest class
voted for by the highest class and upper middle class
A sort of tribune of the plebs made up by upper middle class, voted by upper middle class and representatives from the lower classes
Republic originally meant "a public matter" didn't it? There needs to be some type of democracy so that common people have some power in government
i think that version of the "tribune of the plebs" would have less power than they did in rome
this would limit democratic influence over most things yet still allow all citizens have some stake in the govt
but thats just off the top of my head
I've been wanting to look into Roman government to learn from their mistakes for a while but haven't gotten into it. I think American government is a fine system we have been decaying as a society
Yeah wasn't it land owning men back at the founding?
yes
i think in the coming years we will have a crossing the rubicon moment
im not really siege pilled
but i think we will have a sincere leader with Faustian spirit sieze control thorugh a constitutional crisis, not trump though.
i think we will lose 2024 then in 2028 we will win and i think thats when it will happen
Eh I don't see something like that happening imo. It depends on how divided the country is by that point and just how big of a crisis there will be.
I couldn't see something like that happening given the current lack of interest most have in politics
i dont know, i get kind of blackpilled sometimes about stuff, like how nobody in our government cares at all about us
not one
same. Fuentes and his America First stuff has been a whitepill for me though. Telling people to go to county GOP meetings, living good lives and starting families is the best way to turn things around.
If the culture can shift the politics will get better
Best of all it's a realistic goal
There's no larpy "rise up!" message
oh and btw all this crossing the rubicon stuff is not good optics, we should n't advocate for it at all, just a prediction about the future
I gotcha it's not an unreasonable prediction
yeah its not unreasonable to say that our current situation is not tenable, but le read siege is terrible, nobody should want a real civil war
it would not go as you think
we would just get invaded
the end