This also shows that science and religion are mostly conflicting.

I never said they didn't conflict. I just said that it doesn't take away from the fact that it's the backbone of western society.

Yeah, the others said that though.

Oh.

The problem is that religion is not sustainable in the long term, because people will see through the lies

I don't necessarily think of them as lies.

Well, but people do

That‘s what matters

To be sure, there are liars in the ranks, but the belief system itself is sincere.

And has a "truth" of it's own kind.

What I‘m saying is that people naturally drive towards atheism, because it makes more sense.

Atheism has increased rapidly since the scientific revolution.

I don't think so. It's far from the obvious for most people. At least in the US.

Well look at Europe

Actualy I think athiesm recently declined here.

What?

Don't quote me on that, I seem to remember seeing something recently.

Oh, atheists dont get a lot of kids?

That may be

No, just the pecentage of people that self identify on census and surveys and such.

Hmm

Maybe it was just a certain age group.

Or demographic.

Maybe because of the immigrants

There are a lot of credulous people out there.

And even with all the progress that been made in science, the vast majority of Americans are still religious.

And a good percentage of those I would consider "devout".

Yes, but they are becoming more secular.

So it's far from obvious that it's a natural position to hold.

It does not happen that fast, it takes a few generations.

There's something about the ideal of god, an entity that represents all of society's most revered traits and ethics, that seems almost necessary for a society to function.

I gtg

Ill read it later

Have a good evening. Gotta drive to the airport in a couple hours so I'm staying up.

>What I‘m saying is that people naturally drive towards atheism, because it makes more sense.
Literally questioned you and you cannot defend any of your belief. You are still parroting it.
>My son, you are adult now! Will you chose to use knowledge research and intelligence to further your belief? Or will you be an autistic screaching dogmatist?
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REEEEEEE My belief is logical. Christianity is declining because they are stupid dark age religion... Hurr Durrr -- @P14

>The problem is that religion is not sustainable in the long term, because people will see through the lies
You cannot defend any of your belief.

Btw, https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Atheist

Kek

..... P14 is typing

The "because it makes more sense" regarded the existence of god.
You say I am parroting things, I dont know why you are assuming that, what I said was my personal opinion.
You say I cannot defend any of my belief. I dont know what you are referring to.
I never said christianity as a whole is stupid and I dont think that "imitating" me in order to make fun of my views is the way to adulthood (">My son, you are adult now! [...] REEEEEEE My belief is logical. Christianity is declining because they are stupid dark age religion... Hurr Durrr -- ").
Indeed it seems to be immature at best.
Then you repeated that I cannot defend my beliefs, I dont know where you're getting this from.
I want to reassure you, that I will take a closer look at christianity and its philosophy, especially looking at the connection between science and the religion.
You will probably recognize that this will take some time.

My point was that independently of all that, christianity gives you a weak mindset. You can point to all the occasions in history when it was supposed to be "strong", but modern Christians are rather weak.