who's gonna be our official goat rancher lmao

@ram3n me and a collie

alright

I wanna be a smith :33

dogs and cats are needed too

Or a carpenter or something

cats for the mice and rats

and dogs for herding

If you have cows you can also have oxes on the livestock

@dmac100 exactly, they need 1 acre for eating and you need a second acre to regrow.

@_CREWMAN horses are better

And bulls for the leather

but a truck is the best

@Yung Koala i'm going into either carpentry/smithing so we could work together lmao

we need to think about machines to help us maximise output

combines for corn

trucks for hauling grain and trailers

Yay @ram3n 😄

Workshop when

Oh yeah

forging our own tools when

I almost forgot about the corn

Fuck yeah

Corn is a must have for vegetable starch

And even for biodiesel

Peas are awesome, they grow like hell

@ram3n >foraging

Heck, you can burn corn cobs for heat.

we can still buy from hardware stores

hrngh

we need to stop larping as a bunch of cowboys and middle ages europeans

we can have trucks, and buy shit we cant make

lmao

okay

we buy capital goods and produce consumer goods

@!papa agreed

put simply

Self sufficiency should be a long term goal, but thinking that we'd be using Amish level technology starting out is silly.

@Mitere this

@dmac100 corn may not be optimal for energy but we can kill many problems with one solution

I think it's completely reasonble to have non-powered tools to use in a SHTF long term scenario but also make use of modern technology while we have it.