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@🎭🎵 basically I just mentioned the writings of Josephus and Tacitus but he ignored it anyway
I'm saying I believe them because it is part of me, it is tangible and therefore true. Americans are a very particular people with a very particular identity. These ideas are part of that. This is what makes us distinct from Europeans. If I were a member of any other nation, I would say we could do without religious liberty as a state religion usually coincides with what it means to be a part of that nation. Same with free speech.
Just as National Socialism of its own variety worked in Germany, it would not be as applicable to a place like America.
It is part of our tradition here, as we were founded by the blood of a few men who believed these things. Thus making it engrained into our national identity.
If I were Italian, I'd support Mussolini, if I were Romanian, I'd support the king, if I were Russian, I'd support the Tsar.
So on and so forth.
It is a fundamental truth woven into the fabric of our nation and therefore (seemingly) inseparable from it.
Just found out I'm not baptized SMH
@Thomas I think the heart of the matter here regarding your disagreement with the Church is that you are broadening natural differing traditions and customs between nations to include what the Church considers objective, universal moral principles. For example, because God commands that all the nations worship Him, states equating Christ to false religions is universally wrong, no matter where it is.
No, rather I am saying because I was born where I was born, raised how I was raised, taught what I was taught, and experienced what I experienced, I am culturally, and by blood, an American. I desire to be Catholic. I do not equate the values of nations with the values of church, rather I do the opposite. I point out where the church contradicts the principles on which my nation was built and founded and vice versa. And as such, we should not support such a thing. And if I were to become Catholic as of this very moment, it would mean I would completely reject America as a heretical failure and in need of destruction. Like Babylon. Do not ever mistake my comparison for equality. And until we find a clear answer to this I don't think any decent and honest Catholic should support America. Rather I think they ought to support its dissolution. If any man is truly faithful to Catholic tradition, if he sincerely believes in such a worldview, it is my observation that he should be staunchly against the preservation of countries like America. @Nicholas István
Do you guys read your daily readings?
The Christian radio I'm listening to is interviewing a BASED sodomite right now
Could I get some Catholic takes on this church? I want to convert to Catholicism from Baptist.
Not sure if this would be a good church though.
you should confess every weekend tbh
*as the pope washes the feet of immigrants and goes against doctrine* @🎭🎵
Traditional Catholicism is good but don't act like the criticisms aren't completely justified.
I’m not baptist, but I work at a baptist church. Is there something you dislike about it?
I jest I completely understand APOSTASY in the current year
Im a big orthodox apologist in particular but I think there is a purgatory, not that ive gone that deep into it
I have many questions for Catholicism, as you can see by the debate above.
But the theology is sound,
and as is the emans of succession.
@Deleted User I might be projecting, but I think it's the general lack of unity among the churches.
@Deleted User I want a church with more structure and authority. I use the label Baptist loosely anyways though, in the sense I grew up going to a Baptist church occasionally but fell out of faith for a number of years.
I don't feel well versed on the differences between Byzantine and Roman Catholics though.
I hope you find a congregation you feel comfortable in.
Someone help me find a benedictine monastery. I want to get items blessed.
It’s nice to have that powerful environment.