*The massacre of the Latins? He totally provoked me ok!?*

I-I'm making fun of you

Orthodoxy seems cool

So first of all the most important thing is the salvation of man. Nothing is more important. If there are Catholics that have fallen away from the church their soul is imperiled. This is bad, very bad. If they can find a home in the Orthodox Church and regain a relationship with God, of which the Catholic Church recognizes as valid, then this is joyous for all.

I'm a recovering atheist and looking for a denomiation to dedicate mylife to

@DOAN What is your specific objection here.

@Brother Basil Sure but it's not ideal.

Better to be in the life of grace than not but it's bad to shirk right discipline because your upset.

The same applies for the Catholic Church. The schism needs to end eventually but dick waving is autistic and deserves an armbar

Ok sure

Look I have to say people like Jay Dyer and his acolytes have given me a much more negative opinion of Orthodoxy then I used to have.

Why is it not enough to follow the teachings of Christ, the morals and the Bible and call it a day? Will someone who believes in Christ and follows his teachings to a T go to hell if he's not a Catholic or if he doesn't like Catholicism?

@DOAN You believe in a fundamentally Protestant view of Christianity.

@DOAN it's like this. The path has been painted for you by the wisest men of their century. Do you want to follow them or man with thin arms who claps hands like girl

Lmao but wasn't Luther pretty redpilled on the JQ

Both Orthodox and Catholic hold that the deposit of the faith is the sacred tradition and not the Bible.

Protestants believe that the Bible is the deposit of faith and it dovetails nicely with their anti-clericalism.

Hmm

Because if you can go straight to the Bible and read it yourself and interpret doctrine like that you don't need a hierarchy

In fact at that point the hierarchy become gate keepers

Is protestantism the root of western degeneracy?

A lot of people say it is

I don't like chasing the original vampire. But you can certainly say that the Protestant Reformation was the point at which Christendom began to fracture.

There's always been heretical and proto-Protestant movements in Europe but they were suppressed until that point where it got out of control with Luther.

I think western degeneracy is an original sin problem fundamentally

When in doubt, blame it on demons

God takes from you what you don't deserve to have

Is that why Martin shrekli is in prison?

maybe

no its litterally a fucking fact

You can trace nearly every problem the west has now to the reformation, which birthed enlightenment thought, which then evolved into both marxism and the epic democratic liberalism we got now

@Deleted User Nothing is new under the sun

Was Communism a gift from God to Eastern Europe or the work of Satan?

God works in mysterious ways, as they say. I couldn't say for sure if it was overall good or bad. I think it was evil, but good can come from pain.

We'll see in another few decades if it was worth it.

Eastern Europe is much more Christian then we are today. They had many martyrs under communism, and it was hard to be Christian. Perhaps more souls went to heaven under communism then capitalism

HEY IS THAT A HUEY LONG PROFILE

10/10

sorry

@Brother Basil

maybe communism was divine chastisement

But really, if you look in the Bible, there are a lot of stories of groups getting persecuted only to have a golden age afterwards.