Message from @jabbatheshlut

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2018-09-29 21:38:30 UTC  

Eh. Benedict was a thing so thats probably not accurate

2018-09-29 21:39:41 UTC  

In fact i think the separation of SSPX from ordinary parishes helped modernists cast aside the true Catholics instead of SSPX helping with returning normies to traditions

2018-09-29 21:41:45 UTC  

Cowards ran when there was a fight. I have parisioners who returned from SSPX to FSSP parishes because they realized SSPXis infiltrated by sede cucks and leading many astray.

2018-09-29 21:42:43 UTC  

I get the SSPX argument and canon law etc. But i think its just wrong. The church didnt schism during the Arian heresy. People stood and fought and were persecuted for the truth even when the popes and emporers were interfering.

2018-09-29 21:45:48 UTC  

we may have a debate in the near future sedes vs non sedes on the daily braap

2018-09-29 21:46:24 UTC  

this isn't a sede debate

2018-09-29 21:46:49 UTC  

No sedes here

2018-09-29 21:47:50 UTC  

The SSPX laity were just Catholics who refused to accept the novus ordo and doctrinal abiguities of VII

2018-09-29 21:48:08 UTC  

But i want the blood of the martyrs to run the streets

2018-09-29 21:48:10 UTC  

they couldn't exactly force diocesan parishes to continue the TLM

2018-09-29 21:48:22 UTC  

I want to see excommunication of lefebvre

2018-09-29 21:48:27 UTC  

So people wake up

2018-09-29 21:49:26 UTC  

But instead he slinked away quietly and with a whisper not a bang. You get what im saying right?

2018-09-29 21:49:33 UTC  

i meant we would have some discussion about this issue on the show

2018-09-29 21:49:39 UTC  

the daily braap possibly next saturday

2018-09-29 21:50:06 UTC  

with classical theist

2018-09-29 21:50:12 UTC  

and maybe simon the sede

2018-09-29 21:50:22 UTC  

but simon is no where near as educated as classical

2018-09-29 21:50:59 UTC  

He was (falsely) excommunicated and he fought for the faith agressively when he was alive

2018-09-29 21:51:43 UTC  

I'd watch, though theist is hard to listen too imho.

2018-09-29 21:52:09 UTC  

His fight was well intended just on the wrong battlefield

2018-09-29 21:52:14 UTC  

Is my point

2018-09-29 21:52:45 UTC  

Anyone want to give their thoughts on the Borgias?

2018-09-29 21:52:47 UTC  

Aka

2018-09-29 21:53:00 UTC  

yeah but if theist is with other people

2018-09-29 21:53:04 UTC  

he will be way more bearable

2018-09-29 21:53:11 UTC  

he will be with me and others

2018-09-29 21:53:13 UTC  

Pope Alexander VI

2018-09-29 21:53:29 UTC  

i read lefabrve wasnt actually excommunicated

2018-09-29 21:54:32 UTC  

he wasn't validly, because the reason was ridiculous and uncanonical

2018-09-29 21:55:33 UTC  

Again the primary reason he founded the SSPX was to continue administering the Mass and sacraments to the faithful under the traditional pre-VII form, which would have been impossible any other way

2018-09-29 21:55:47 UTC  

faithful laity who were in a spiritual crisis without that

2018-09-29 21:59:10 UTC  

ok serious quesytion how am i supposed to celebrate all these amazing feast days

2018-09-29 21:59:22 UTC  

FSSPers wouldn't have their fssp and summorum pontificum if he hadn't done it

2018-09-29 21:59:40 UTC  

probably true

2018-09-29 22:01:19 UTC  

If you have a 1962 missal it has dedicated prayers for all of the feast days

2018-09-29 22:01:24 UTC  

True, it's more about the future now. FSSP is growing whilst the SSPX situation seems to only be done right by a conservative pope. Kinda waiting for that so things get cleared up. I just don't want people to fall for sedes.

2018-09-29 22:02:11 UTC  

Not saying SSPX is sede to clarfiy. But even in my parish voices are heard. We have to be careful.

2018-09-29 22:04:16 UTC  

true but the sspx is anti-sede too

2018-09-29 22:06:36 UTC  

^^

2018-09-29 22:06:41 UTC  

yeah dont have that