Message from @hootersforshooters

Discord ID: 643234060470190100


2019-11-10 23:19:49 UTC  

People can be harmed from vaccines, from minor to major harm including death.

2019-11-10 23:20:07 UTC  

People can survive not vaccinated.

2019-11-10 23:20:27 UTC  

You think it's OK to harm people to get what you want.

2019-11-10 23:20:40 UTC  

You are anti-immigration.

2019-11-10 23:20:53 UTC  

Are these statements accurate?

2019-11-10 23:22:25 UTC  

Idk why you’re trying to simplify it

2019-11-10 23:22:41 UTC  

You stand a better chance of survival with a vaccination than without one

2019-11-10 23:23:00 UTC  

I don't know why you're trying to complicate it. Are these statements of yours accurate?

2019-11-10 23:23:50 UTC  

"You stand a better chance of survival with a vaccination than without one"
Please dont create strawman positions in an attempt to solidify your argument.

2019-11-10 23:36:42 UTC  

*crickets*
No response? I'm out.

2019-11-10 23:37:13 UTC  

Does herd immunity mean nothing to you @hootersforshooters

2019-11-10 23:39:15 UTC  

Also you are literally throwing aside facts that @say has put to you

2019-11-10 23:39:33 UTC  

I have no idea. What does herd immunity mean to you?

2019-11-10 23:39:58 UTC  

I'm not throwing aside anything. I'm keeping him to the subject at hand

2019-11-10 23:40:51 UTC  

His "facts" are mere distractions from the subject matter.

2019-11-10 23:40:53 UTC  

Herd immunity means as long as enough of a Population is immunised to a disease that disease can not spread through them to more vulnerable members of the community who can't v he immunised

2019-11-10 23:41:19 UTC  

So, then.....you're against immigration then, right?

2019-11-10 23:41:30 UTC  

And against travel, right?

2019-11-10 23:41:59 UTC  

I am for informed consent and educating those who believe that health should be associated with politics

2019-11-10 23:42:01 UTC  

And pro-coercion, right?

2019-11-10 23:42:30 UTC  

So.....anti-immigration, right?

2019-11-10 23:43:02 UTC  

No because you can vaccinate immigrants they aren't vaccine repellent

2019-11-10 23:43:22 UTC  

But what if they don't want to be immunized?

2019-11-10 23:43:48 UTC  

Well then that's their right

2019-11-10 23:44:07 UTC  

OK, great. Problem solved. Vaccinate if you want to.

2019-11-10 23:44:22 UTC  

Children are different however

2019-11-10 23:44:32 UTC  

So.....coercion?

2019-11-10 23:45:41 UTC  

No to send a immuninisable child to school without vaccines regardless of your personal view on vaccines is neglectful of the child's health

2019-11-10 23:45:56 UTC  

How so?

2019-11-10 23:46:38 UTC  

Are you trying to say that one form of harm is acceptable whereas another form of harm isn't?

2019-11-10 23:46:43 UTC  

You are potentially exposing a child who can not make their own decisions to diseases which can prove fatal

2019-11-10 23:47:30 UTC  

Their is a difference between a pin prick and a bit of redness for a day and contracting measles

2019-11-10 23:47:36 UTC  

There not their

2019-11-10 23:47:58 UTC  

So, you're a moral relativist?

2019-11-10 23:48:14 UTC  

I thought you were for informed CONSENT?

2019-11-10 23:48:24 UTC  

Children can not give consent

2019-11-10 23:48:37 UTC  

But their caretaker can.

2019-11-10 23:49:24 UTC  

And if their caretaker hit them or neglected to feed them or fed them rotten food they would be taken away from the care giver

2019-11-10 23:49:40 UTC  

Then they wouldn't be a caretaker.

2019-11-10 23:49:40 UTC  

Based

2019-11-10 23:50:12 UTC  

And then another caretaker would be initiated, if there was someone willing to be a caretaker.