Message from @Say
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@Say "Even if it did cause autism, you’re better off being vaccinated"
This is what psychopaths say.
“There are lies, darn lies, a d statistics “
No it’s not. It’s what reasonable people say
@Say no statistics. Evidence.
1 in 110 kids get autism
Their is nothing wrong with autism
Supposedly because of vaccines
Influenza mortality in in the 30s was 40%
I have aspergers and 146 iq I'm also not gonna die of measles
Ummmmm.....no.......reasonable people are not morally relativistic. @Say
Im not a mathematician or anything, but 1/110 is less than 40%
Also mmr does not cause autism so yh
@hootersforshooters do u live in Europe or america or another contjnent
I don't have Aspergers and I have a high IQ (whatever that means) and I won't die of measles, either. Ceteris Parabus......sorry about your luck @Mattie
A major cause for rises in autism diagnoses is the updating of the DSM and awareness going up
@Say
1 in 30
But, whose counting? Since it has nothing to do with the subject matter.
It absolutely has to do with the subject matter
The subject matter is......harm and the right to harm.....aka coercion. So, if you want to stray away from that, well, that won't help anyone.
If this is a cost/reward exchange (which it isnt) then you have a better chance if dying by not being vaccinated then getting autism from vaccines
@Say so, moral relativism.....
Statistics are all important and comparing all the recorded statistics not just cherry picking ones that support your current point is the basis of a coherant argument in any debate regarding science
You think you are allowed a to force people to do things that may harm them, right?
What does moral relativism have anything to do with this
That's because the chance of getting autism from vaccines is zero
@Mattie you enjoy all the statistics you want. The subject matter is harm, coercion.....like you said...informed consent.
Yes. People should run the **incredibly** low chance of being harmed from a vaccine to avoid the very real chance of death that comes from not being vaccinated
@Say you think you're allowed to harm people .
Yes but statistics are still a very important point
That you're allowed to coerce people.
You may have to cause someone pain to fix a broken bone, but in the end, you won’t die from that broken bone
@Mattie not to this subject matter.
You might break a few ribs while giving CPR, but it’s worth it to save the person’s life
@Say so, you believe in coercion, right?
By that logic we shouldn't relocate a dislocated shoulder because we could cause harm
@hootersforshooters so you think we shouldn’t give people CPR, right?
Cause it might break a few ribs and cause them pain
@Say "You might break a few ribs while giving CPR, but it’s worth it to save the person’s life"
Please stop with the strawman. You're not a real doctor, are you?
Or ct or xrays either
I am