Message from @johnfrum

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2019-11-06 06:58:35 UTC  

Or like a fueling hub where trains are quick charged

2019-11-06 06:58:39 UTC  

It costs 1400 per 100km if the train weights 100 tons

2019-11-06 06:58:57 UTC  

<:kizunaNo:392899963295891456>

2019-11-06 06:59:05 UTC  

Current tr1 1980 ones weight 80 so its tad cheaper

2019-11-06 06:59:39 UTC  

(Assuming all electric usage and no other costs)

2019-11-06 07:02:48 UTC  

if the info isn't out there you can absolutely request that information

2019-11-06 07:03:01 UTC  

Running costs are like the last thing to consider for these things, I imagine.

2019-11-06 07:03:32 UTC  

Building infrastructure is stupidly expensive

2019-11-06 07:03:35 UTC  

<:kizunaStare:385945680688054283>

2019-11-06 07:03:44 UTC  

How much are parts, engineers, maintaince, random regulations

2019-11-06 07:04:09 UTC  

@johnfrum thats why i needed the cost and data :P

2019-11-06 07:04:15 UTC  

Also optimal layout. Who owns that land you wanna change? And what if they don't sell

2019-11-06 07:04:16 UTC  

<:kizunaStare:385945680688054283>

2019-11-06 07:05:01 UTC  

Fair. So an electric freight train?

2019-11-06 07:05:32 UTC  

If we assume 60ish ton 120 person csrt there

2019-11-06 07:06:05 UTC  

Its about 2100e per 100km with large extra margins ofc

2019-11-06 07:06:23 UTC  

(Locomotive and cart combined)

2019-11-06 07:06:42 UTC  

That cost includes electricity and rail usage etc

2019-11-06 07:07:11 UTC  

And tax :D

2019-11-06 07:08:46 UTC  

Direct fra link 404 sadly

2019-11-06 07:09:35 UTC  

Damn, google Cost benefit analysis if next generation electric frieght train

2019-11-06 07:09:41 UTC  

Fra

2019-11-06 07:10:03 UTC  

Pretty recent ish, released 2015

2019-11-06 07:10:34 UTC  

Theres a lot more case studies on the death of it post 70s more than anything

2019-11-06 07:12:07 UTC  

Yeah im just doing some light groundwork here for local railways nice to compare it to something at least

2019-11-06 07:15:11 UTC  

Basecost for electric trainss here is 0.1355e per <total weight(tons)*distance(km)>

2019-11-06 07:18:20 UTC  

>>> the basic infrastructure charge shall include minimum infrastructure access services, which shall be:
(a) processing of requests for railway infrastructure capacity;
(b) the right to use the allocated capacity;
(c) use of railway infrastructure, including network junctions and switches;
(d) train control, including signaling, traffic control, transmission and communication as well as train movement information;
(e) use of electricity transmission equipment to provide transport flow;
(f) all other information required for the operation of the service for which capacity has been granted.

2019-11-06 07:19:42 UTC  

Is your rail network privatized or a mix?

2019-11-06 07:20:53 UTC  

"State owned”

2019-11-06 07:21:19 UTC  

Quotes due its quite complex bullshittery

2019-11-06 07:21:49 UTC  

But its opening to "privates must get access too"

2019-11-06 07:23:48 UTC  

We have pretty much 3 different "state-owned"companies for railway upkeep

2019-11-06 07:24:08 UTC  

One for rails and their upkeep and cost

2019-11-06 07:24:34 UTC  

One for station upkeep and station notififcations*

2019-11-06 07:25:12 UTC  

And one for the trains itself and their upkeep and notifications*

2019-11-06 07:25:50 UTC  

*: you can imagine how poorly messages get conveyed due different companies on the notifications

2019-11-06 07:28:33 UTC  

But yeah now i know aproximate cost for 120 (or more if locomotive what can hold people is chosen) to travel 100km

2019-11-06 07:29:47 UTC  

Given my interest for this is 40ish km piece what has 100km/h rails but is already electrified

2019-11-06 07:30:08 UTC  

<:kizunaStare:385945680688054283>

2019-11-06 07:30:18 UTC  

But does not have passenger trains since 1997

2019-11-06 07:30:38 UTC  

Stations are still there and up to date is