Yes.

now being a boomer i don't know that meme

KE is something that boomers unironically obsess about.

i do know the stopping power meme, which is apparently now the tissue damage meme

KE is the stopping power meme.

KE = Kinetic Energy.

It's the idea that .45 is somehow a nuclear bomb compared to 9mm.

KE is a value derived from a formula, stopping power is something that's not quantifiable

no, 9 mm and .45 have practically the similar KE

It's "muh ft-lbs"

They're all related.

again, KE and ft-lbs are different

of course everything is related

You know what? This is going nowhere, you and I are discussing different things.

We can't even agree on terms, there is no point.

i think you're just cornered and want out

I really don't, but if you want to "win" then go ahead.

KE is mass times the square of speed

meaning 9 mm with more speed hits equally hard as the heavier .45 (relatively), ft-lbs is the muzzle energy.

I know that. Why are we discussing this?

and penetration details matter just as much to fbi as the terminal ballistics (ie. tissue damage). .50 AE isn't used by the FBI because while it has the tissue damage, it's a shitty cartridge.

I know that, but why are you resorting to a straw man?

just 2 seconds ago you said stopping power, KE and muzzle energy are the same thing

before that you said tissue damage is literally the only thing FBI cares about

No I fucking didn't.

i'm just rubbing it in honey, you call it a straw man because you're a fucking idiot

Why because you're taking what I said out of context for an internet gotcha?

Man, you're a fucking intellectual.

out of context?

yeah, that's what I'm doing.

"OH MY GOD HE SAYS THAT TISSUE DAMAGE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ENERGY THAT MUST MEAN IT'S THE ONLY THING HE MUST THINK THAT .50 AE IS THE BEST CARTRIDGE"

you said, literally, that tissue damage is the most important thing, that literally fbi is literally looking for

you also said that KE is stopping power is muzzle energy

what part did i get wrong? you can check your own quotes

No I didn't.

I said that tissue damage matters more.

I'm fucking done here.

you sure are

i said that shot placement matters more, but hell, let's just forget that too

> resumes playing apex legends

Sorry I had a boomer moment when I thought this was poltics free with all the long threads