Message from @nutsnax
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The .50 is most definitely overhyped
Specifically in the amateur LongRange community
And the normal Gun Community
my understanding was that the .50 is really only good for light armored vehicles and infrastructure
and that it's not a pinpoint accuracy weapon
because of the crazy shit they have to do to make it work
Dont get me wrong, it's still accurate...Its just, not that accurate...The grouping is inferior to the .338 lapua at practically any range
Or even the .300 win mag
Keep in mind the 50 can reach out much further than the 300 win mag
right, that might not matter if you're blowing up a transformer at 1500 yards or something
True...But atleast with a .416 you get all the advantages of the .50, with godlike accuracy and grouping
It's just funny to see the M82 Barretts effective range being the same as a .300 win mag🤣 like only 1800 yards🤣
right, I don't think you need a 600+ grain projectile to take out a transformer
or some kind of infrastructure like that
The semi-auto Barrett sucks...idk why but they group like horseshit
Atleast the McMillan 50 and M99 bolt action 50 seem far more accurate...But that can be due to individual rifles...I just have yet to see an M82 that doesnt have the grouping of a child with cerebral palsy at 1600 yards
I saw something about hte .50 barrett sucking because the barrel has to flop around in the recoil absorption process when firing (I think?)
That's my guess
I can tell you a McMillan, an M99 or a custom is tremendously more accurate than the M82 tho, from all the empirical evidence I've seen
guess you could get lighter projectiles/lighter loads that wouldn't be so bad in a bolt action of some sort
Idk why the military doesnt adopt a barret .416, but with a magazine
They're single shot, no capacity
Which is an issue, for military purposes
maybe it's because they have .50 bmg machine guns on all kinds of things so if they can get 80-90% of the performance without rolling a new cartridge and having to fuck with the manufacturer
though I dunno if the .50 is 80-90% of the performance
The .50 Barretts and McMillans have a very niche military role anyway...Pretty much just Anti-material...
The .338 Lapua pretty much gets you were you need to go, in terms of sniping
That's why the military barely has any, in all reality
I try to think of what the best types of rifles to own would be, for theoretical situations - it's kind of a fun exercise. i.e. financial collapse, invasion etc
or what the various use-cases would be
Well...a .50 typically weighs 30 pounds...My 338-378(shoots about 150ft/s faster than lapua) weighs as much as a typical hunting rifle...Both could be used way past 2000 yards
So from a military/defense standpoint those big guns are only relevant for lightly armored vehicles
right, that would make a much better combination anti-material/sniper rifle but I doubt ammo is all that available
so if someone stole an armored car and put machine guns on it, you could theoretically use it to punch through it (maybe)
338-378 ammo is $80 for a box of 20 from weatherby, and it's a niche long range round
Even then the .50 wouldnt do shit to an APC, or IFV
fuck that's expensive
Only literally cars...That are armored
Would be in trouble
Like literally all APCs are built to atleast survive 14.5mm AP rounds at 100 yards